Hose Nozzle (revisited)

[Blue_Ridge_Products]

Ron I have a weekend Detailing business in Toronto with 15 regular customers( 2-3x/yr.) and 10-15 once a year clients. The majority are high end vehicles 1 -3 yrs. old many of which are not garaged (covered in tree sap) and driven thru the winter. Most of these vehicles are driven thru executive car washes each week creating major swirls and marring by the time I see them. I've been using Prodution Car Care and Malco products for the last 2 yrs. Each car is sprayed with a 1/5 solution of Production Red Power, sprayed off after 3-5min. Washed with Malco's Verry Berry. Clayed using detail spray as a lubricant. Buffed at 1200rpm with Malco's Lite finish using a blue 2ply wool and yarn bonnet. Buffed with Malco's Lite Finish at 1000rpm using a foam waffled finishing pad. Finally an application, using the DA, of either Production Red Baron Carnuba or Production's Polymer before winter.

After repeatedly reading your posts and visiting your site where you point out that with each pass of a rotary buffer you remove .1mil of clear using your Liquid Correction Cream. My question is although the product I am buffing with is not as aggressive as the Correction Cream( probably closer to your Pre Conditioner Cleaner) what am I suppose to do with my regular customers at 4-6 mth. intervals who's cars are covered with swirls,hard water spots,bird crap etchings etc... they obviously require buffing,but at what cost to the clear over the yrs.? To date my results have been excellent ususally removing 70-80 % of the swirls. Hypothetically you are saying a car can only be compouded 3 maybe 4 times before you risk clearcoat failure.What are the alternatives buff once a yr. and use the hocus pocus of glaze the rest of the year?

 

[Ron Ketcham]

This is too involved, our toll free works from Canada, 800-543-7156 and I will discuss the issues with you so you may have a more complete overview of the concern.



We also have a distributor in Burlington and one of the owners lives in Toronto and can aid you in the various issues after we chat.



I will be in for a while Wed, only early Thursday,(that 3 week trip to SE Asia ate up my golf time, so going on the links Thurs.



Will be in morning of Friday, then all next Monday. We are on the same time as you.



Ketch

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[EclecTech]

Yes, there was a thread last year concerning the fire hose nozzle pros and cons... I have been using a dial-a-pattern type for years... and got in the habit of installing a simple shut off valve on that end for connecting it to various things without having to walk over to shutoff the faucet.

I was in a rush this afternoon and didn't bother to attach the dial-a-pattern nozzle and was amazed at how well the hose mounted shut off valve itself worked! It could do fine spray (though not circular) with good pressure to max flow for drying prep. It was a cheap ball valve with 90 degrees from zero to full blast. I've never gotten that range of spray and flow before. Anyone else ever try it or is that what the fire hose nozzle provides?

Jack

 

[imported_TLMitchell]

Yes, there was a thread last year concerning the fire hose nozzle pros and cons...

Think I started that one, IIRC.

I have been using a dial-a-pattern type for years... and got in the habit of installing a simple shut off valve on that end for connecting it to various things without having to walk over to shutoff the faucet.

I was in a rush this afternoon and didn't bother to attach the dial-a-pattern nozzle and was amazed at how well the hose mounted shut off valve itself worked! It could do fine spray (though not circular) with good pressure to max flow for drying prep. It was a cheap ball valve with 90 degrees from zero to full blast. I've never gotten that range of spray and flow before. Anyone else ever try it or is that what the fire hose nozzle provides?

Jack

I use a hose-end shutoff as well as quick-release bayonet mounts for quick nozzle changes. I've occasionally used the shutoff sans nozzle when I flood a rinse, never putzed using the shutoff as a type of restrictor though. Gonna have to give that a try.

I was originally looking for something that didn't involve a trigger. When I blast under the wheel well lips I end up with the nozzle reversed with pressure on my thumb and I was expoeriencing some repetative-stress type discomfort in the thumb joint. I picked up a Firehose nozzle and wasn't impressed with the blasting effect compared to a trigger nozzle.

Some recommended the Bon Aire Ultimate nozzle so I gave that a look-see. About the same performance as the Firehose nozzle with the convenience of being able to turn it off by twisting either way. It still takes two hands to turn on and off or adjust the spray. That Bon Aire is available once-used and still in the packaging if anyone's interested... PM me or e-mail.

www dot amazon dot com/Bon-Aire-Original-Ultimate-Nozzle-Aluminum/dp/B0001L0DFA

I've since stumbled on a slick sprayer on Woot, of all places. They had a 2-pack of Gilmour flip-up sprayers, one dial-a-pattern job, which I find handy for watering the petunias but not to my liking for washing cars, and another more traditional sprayer. They were cheap so I gave 'em a look.

www dot kokeygadgets dot com/featured/home-and-garden-tools/5902-green-thumb-easy-flip-sprayer-2-in-1-package-deal

This thing is the ticket for blasting under wheels wells! The flip-up actuator is eligant in it's simplicity and gives my thumb a break. It has serious blasting power when you need it and more traditional adjustable patterns when you prefer. The jury is out on longevity, the flip-up appears to be plastic.

The quick-release along with the shutoff allows quick n easy nozzle changes to suit whatever I'm doing. One-handed operation is convenient and without a trigger you never get doused when you throw it down. Now that my thumb joint no longer hurts I can give it :thumbup:

TL

 

[ziggo99]

I just used the shut off value yesterday, and I like it best. With it about half open, the water is a decent pressure and with quick flicking motions, it gets the soap off quick.