Holograms, how to avoid them?

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SteveO2005TSX

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I have been practicing and practicing and still can't get it perfect. I've been practicing on my black car for a while now and still haven't found a way to avoid holograms. I'm currently using Optimum Compound and Polish with a UDM. I never can get the compound to completely work in, so I have a lot of wiping to do. I have worked areas (2x2) upwards of 3-5 minutes and the compound will still be heavy and hard to wipe off. I'm using approximately a nickle sized drop. The polish feels like it works in. Turns clean. I start noticing some dust coming off. I wipe it off and still have some holograms in direct sunlight. I've just never been too happy with the results on my car. It seems to work great on every other car I've worked on that's not black. I have to be doing something wrong here
 
Is this on a 2005 TSX? If I recall that paint is pretty darn soft.



What kind of pads are you using with the Opt polish?
 
SteveO2005TSX- Hmm..holograms with a UDM :confused: I thought the UDM was a variation on the random-orbital theme and I only get (true) holograms via rotary :nixweiss



FWIW, I never got the results I wanted with Optimum polish. I'm sure it's user-error, and I hear their latest version is better, but still, I do better with my other stuff.



But that "never get the compound to completely work in" makes me think you might be using a bit too much product.
 
Accumulator said:
SteveO2005TSX- Hmm..holograms with a UDM :confused: I thought the UDM was a variation on the random-orbital theme and I only get (true) holograms via rotary :nixweiss



FWIW, I never got the results I wanted with Optimum polish. I'm sure it's user-error, and I hear their latest version is better, but still, I do better with my other stuff.



But that "never get the compound to completely work in" makes me think you might be using a bit too much product.
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could be using the wrong definition. let me see if I can snap a picture of what I'm talking about
 
Steve,



You should try a finishing polish. UFSE or 85RD would be excellent canidates. Try those with a black pad or a red pad and I'd bet $$ your holograms will be gone.



In my limited experience with my super-soft Honda NHBP clear a finishing polish is mandatory.
 
ABQDetailer said:
Steve,



You should try a finishing polish. UFSE or 85RD would be excellent canidates. Try those with a black pad or a red pad and I'd bet $$ your holograms will be gone.



In my limited experience with my super-soft Honda NHBP clear a finishing polish is mandatory.
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This was along the lines of what I was thinking. I'm wondering if a white pad and OP is still too "harsh" for a soft clear. I was wondering if he stepped down to a blue finishing pad if that would help.
 
twitch said:
.. I'm wondering if a white pad and OP is still too "harsh" for a soft clear..
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I do finer final polishing than that even on very hard clear, but then I never can get OCP to finish out quite the way I'd like anyhow.



Could be that loooong work time, not really sure what my problem is.. but that's just one of those products that doesn't work as well for me as it does for others :nixweiss



SteveO2005TSX said:
could be using the wrong definition. let me see if I can snap a picture of what I'm talking about
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You might just be getting some very light hazing from the product/pad combo being too aggressive for the final step or from not breaking the product down completely.
 
do ot use a machine buffer on your car, everythin can be accomplished by hand with the right tools, technique and a litle passion behind the pad
 
The only way you can have holograms, is:



a) Someone in the past polished your vehicle with a rotary and failed to remove the holograms that they induced and you have not worked the polish in enough to remove the holograms yourself.



b) You are not completely breaking down/removing polish residue and it gives the false impression of holograms.



First, try wiping with a clean microfibre.
 
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