hologramming

^&04types said:
anyone have any idea on how to remove these holograms? they were caused by a wool bonnet. ive tried a rotary via white foam pad and OP BUT no avail. please assist . thanks.
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If your current combination isn't putting a dent in those trails then you need to step up in aggressiveness, then back down to finish.



There's a chance those holograms are now from you and your current combination. If that's the case you need to try stepping down in aggressiveness. IMO this scenario is more likely as the combo you're using should be able to dramatically lessen severe trails. Put another way any method that is less severe then the previous step should leave a better result no matter the starting point.



HTH
 
were you using the newer updated version of OP with the gold seal on the bottle?



Was the white polishing pad clean or did it have other polish or compound on it?



The reason why I ask is I used there older version last year and it left hologram and buffer trail marks everywhere no matter what pad I used and even with a pc. The polish did not break down properly.



I tried the newer version Optimum polish (gold seal on it) the other day and it was a huge improvement. Broke down faster, left a very good shiny finish, even on wool. Removed all the defects also. The only thing left behind were the slight wool pad hair swirls. I swiched to the pc and a white pad and they were gone.
 
Most cars I do, I will always use a rotory with a wool pad gently to remove any oxidation quicky and bring out a very smooth glass like surface. I will then procede with a pc with a lc white pad and a finish polish and all the buffer trail marks will be gone and the finish will be 100%.
 
maybe i should try and orange pad using OP?





i havent had any other issues with the OP on the rest of the car. I had used a wool pad on this one section due to some light oxidation, but the OP worked fine with the rest of the car using a white pad.
 
^&04types said:
maybe i should try and orange pad using OP? i havent had any other issues with the OP on the rest of the car. I had used a wool pad on this one section....
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Since the only area that's giving you problems is the one where you used the wool, then maybe the orange/OP is a good idea. If that doesn't work then go the othe direction- milder. I wouldn't work the area *too* much in the course of figuring this out ;)
 
There ain't nothin wrong with wool pads, you just gotta know how to use em.



I find menzerna's IP or 3m perfect-it III machine glaze will take care of them there swirls...And keep a wipe with alcohol handy to see if you're actually removing them or just covering them up ;)
 
trhland said:
stay away from those wool pads, there way to aggresive stick with foam cutting pads instead
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That's interesting. I never had any good luck compounding or heavy buffing with foam. I spoke to reps over the weekend from Lake County and Edge and asked them what they prefered and they felt the same way. Those black Edge compounding pads scre the heck out of me. :soscared:
 
there is nothing wrong with wool pads, but it's what you use with the wool pads. I would only use OP or presta 1500 polish. Nothing with grit in it, cause that is what causes these deep trail marks by wool. Oh ya, the edge pads look great and I am gonna order a bunch this week



Back to the problem: A pc with a yellow or orange pad and a finish polish will get those deep trail marks out. Then follow with a white pad. I work on a lot of used cars that are hacked badly by rotorys in the wrong hands and this always works on softer paint like honda. Any questions feel free to PM me
 
Wool is about the same cutting power as an edge black

So the black I use sometimes to get the results of wool without the trails

I just watch the speed with those pads and then follow with LC and Sonus pads



IP and FP will fix them no probs

I have never gotten holograms from any menzerna IP or FP
 
trhland said:
stay away from those wool pads, there way to aggresive stick with foam cutting pads instead
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When used properly wool is actually safer than a foam cutting pad. They run cooler than foam cutting pads.



Anthony
 
Anthony Orosco said:
When used properly wool is actually safer than a foam cutting pad. They run cooler than foam cutting pads.



Anthony
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Very true. Wool is more forgiving and safer when used properly and the right polish makes the difference. Also, let the weight of the machine do the work and do not apply to much pressure and stay away from corner edges.
 
Anthony Orosco said:
When used properly wool is actually safer than a foam cutting pad. They run cooler than foam cutting pads.



Anthony
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Cooler yes, but both can cause damage in a hurry if used incorrectly.



Personally I don't use either. I'll use heavier techniques and polishes well before reaching for a more aggressive pad. Just preference though...
 
I've tried to burn through paint before with a wool pad, and I just can't...it's easy to do on bumpers because they're plastic...but on the hood or roof...man it takes a lot of effort to f' it up.



Swirls are super easy to make if you're playing around trying to make swirls.
 
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