High School Seniors...Colleges?

Sherman8r44

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Hey all you other college-bound HS seniors out there...have you been hearing good/bad news from colleges?



My scorecard's looking down and out so far. Applied to 13 colleges, heard from 8, only got into 3. Hell, I got waitlisted by a SAFETY. Just wondering how many of y'all are in the same boat as I....
 
Yikes, hopefully you'll get more good news from the remaining schools. When I applied in '03 I got into 6 of the 7 schools I applied to.



BTW, if you don't mind, I have some advice for you... if money is not an issue, LEAVE HOME! I made the mistake of passing on some really good schools to go to the local university and live at home (what's worse is I did it for the wrong reasons- a girl, that relationship ended last year). I feel I completely missed out on a "college experience." Good luck, and enjoy college!
 
kpagel said:
Yikes, hopefully you'll get more good news from the remaining schools. When I applied in '03 I got into 6 of the 7 schools I applied to.



BTW, if you don't mind, I have some advice for you... if money is not an issue, LEAVE HOME! I made the mistake of passing on some really good schools to go to the local university and live at home (what's worse is I did it for the wrong reasons- a girl, that relationship ended last year). I feel I completely missed out on a "college experience." Good luck, and enjoy college!



Eh, leaving home is overrated, IMO. It depends on your personality. If you like to drink and party and want the "college experience", you will do great away from home - granted, you will also be missing out on the "academic success" part of the equation ;).



I am at a local university and doing a heck of a lot better than I would be away from home. Can't say that with certainty but I feel like it's true. My GPA speaks for itself.



To the OP, don't let him make you feel crappy that he got into 6 out of 7. The colleges overall are A LOT more selective than they were 4 years ago. Don't let it get you down. Safeties are sometimes your best friend! (I mean that with all seriousness).
 
BMW335i said:
Eh, leaving home is overrated, IMO. It depends on your personality. If you like to drink and party and want the "college experience", you will do great away from home - granted, you will also be missing out on the "academic success" part of the equation ;).



I am at a local university and doing a heck of a lot better than I would be away from home. Can't say that with certainty but I feel like it's true. My GPA speaks for itself.



To the OP, don't let him make you feel crappy that he got into 6 out of 7. The colleges overall are A LOT more selective than they were 4 years ago. Don't let it get you down. Safeties are sometimes your best friend! (I mean that with all seriousness).



For the record, I wasn't trying to make the OP feel "crappy" or anything like that. I actually meant to make the point that I've heard that colleges are being more selective nowadays and comparing it with my own experience, but didn't proofread my post. I wasn't trying to insult the OP in any way, I just didn't complete my thought.



Anyways, in regards to the "college experience" I'm not talking about going to parties and drinking. I believe I missed out on the college "experience" because as a commuter student, I go to my classes and then come home. I don't feel like I'm actually a part of the campus community, I never joined any extra-curricular activities, and I have not made a single friend at my university. That is no exaggeration, in 4 years I have not made a lasting friend at my school (and I'm a friendly, outgoing person who usually has no problem meeting people). Yes, I could have joined clubs and such on my own, but its a lot easier to get involved and meet friends and create experiences and memories you'll remember the rest of your life when you're living on campus.



I was just trying to relate my experience, because I know my one main regret was not going away for college and seeing what its like to be out on my own, meeting new people, etc. Obviously, the advice isn't for everyone. Of course college should be about academics, but you should enjoy it as well. I don't see myself in 20 years looking back at my experiences in college and thinking, "those were some of the best times of my life" and that kinda bums me out.



Shoulda, woulda, coulda... I'm not complaining, as I'm doing just fine and I have plenty of friends outside of school and things like that. I just think I would have had some good experiences had I gone away.
 
I only applied to two and the university that was my first choice (Arizona State University) accepted me quickly. I'm going there next year with a full ride scholarship and am now trying to get into their Honors College (not too sure though). And I'm planning on living at home, as the whole "college experience" thing isn't really my type lol.



Oh, and good luck on the college searches Sherman8r44.
 
kpagel said:
Anyways, in regards to the "college experience" I'm not talking about going to parties and drinking. I believe I missed out on the college "experience" because as a commuter student, I go to my classes and then come home. I don't feel like I'm actually a part of the campus community, I never joined any extra-curricular activities, and I have not made a single friend at my university. That is no exaggeration, in 4 years I have not made a lasting friend at my school (and I'm a friendly, outgoing person who usually has no problem meeting people). Yes, I could have joined clubs and such on my own, but its a lot easier to get involved and meet friends and create experiences and memories you'll remember the rest of your life when you're living on campus.



That's EXACTLY why I want to go away from home. I'm not totally into the whole partying thing, but I want the real college campus experience. Sucks that the reason you made your decision became a non-issue. :(



335i--I keep hearing that colleges are becoming more selective, but why? How much more selective could they possibly get each year?
 
As far as selective, I've been told that the main emphasis now is on extracurricular activities. It is not so much what you did in class, but out of it.
 
azenthusiast said:
As far as selective, I've been told that the main emphasis now is on extracurricular activities. It is not so much what you did in class, but out of it.



Not quite the "main" emphasis,, but definetly important. I would say the main emphasis is definetly still the tried and true GPA and SAT scores.



The reaosn why colleges are so much more selective is because of the sheer number of applicants. It's increased greatly over the past few years and they can't accept everyone, with so many qualified applicants its tough.
 
Hm. Looking back on it picking Buffalo over Rochester and Cornell was a good decision. Going an extra year has given me a chance to grow up and pick a major I really enjoy. The truth is always in the finer details.
 
As an employee of a state university, I think I can shed some light on why colleges are more selective than they have been in the past. One of the major reasons at my school is student retention. The school I work for has historically accepted anyone with a heartbeat (literally). They have always had an issue with people dropping out after the first year, or going almost the full way only to transfer to another school to finish their degree. By raising standards, schools bet that less students will drop out and that more students will finish their degrees because the student body is higher quality (better school reputation).



At my university, this seems to be working. Having a "new" campus doesn't hurt either. We are experiencing our highest enrollment numbers since the late 80's/early 90's. From what my friends in the Admissions department tell me, they also have a back-log of applicants. They just can't get through them fast enough.



Good luck with all of your applications.
 
AkronSi said:
As an employee of a state university, I think I can shed some light on why colleges are more selective than they have been in the past. One of the major reasons at my school is student retention. The school I work for has historically accepted anyone with a heartbeat (literally). They have always had an issue with people dropping out after the first year, or going almost the full way only to transfer to another school to finish their degree. By raising standards, schools bet that less students will drop out and that more students will finish their degrees because the student body is higher quality (better school reputation).



Bingo. My university's main problem is the number of 1st year students that fail out after the first year or (lately) find the constant tuition increases make going to college at home cheaper.



To the OP- what field of work do you hope to go into? I'm not trying to put down universities, but relevant work experience seems to have a higher influence on getting a job in the competitive market. For areas that involve science and research or business, you'll benefit from a reputable university, but if you plan on a graduate level degree or a job in the humanities or social sciences, any 4-year school and a good GPA will be good. This is what I have found, but it could be different depending on what area of the country you live in.



Once you get accepted into some of the schools you wanted, see if you can go check them out for a few days. The college experience varies widely between each person, but there is definitely a noticeable level of drinking and partying wherever you go. "Recreational drug use" is also pretty common.



When I was a freshman, I noticed that the following groups were pretty prominent:



1. Greeks. The sorority and fraternity people that were always busy with date parties, fundraising events, promoting their groups for new recruits. Definitely a good way to meet a LOT of people in a place that may be new to you, but overwhelming if you aren't used to doing a lot of stuff and a good way to get into a bad situation if you join the wrong fraternity.



2. Gamers. Xbox Live was a BIG deal since you had the campus network and Ethernet jacks everywhere you went. Some people were pretty hardcore and stayed up all night playing only to miss class the next day. Since there's a lot of people who do this, it's another way to meet friends and build strong relationships. Also applies to WoW and CS.



3. Academics. Pretty self-explanatory. There are usually on-campus groups for people who are devoted to studying. These groups form to do lots of community projects together.



4. Athletes. Depending on your school's NCAA reputation, this group may be more/less prominent. It's difficult to describe because some athletes manage to fit into the Academics group while outperforming others in their sport, and some become so devoted to their sport that class is merely a nuisance in their schedule.



5. Commuters. You see them in class, and that's really it. A lot of them seem to work part time jobs so they don't have a lot of time to lounge around the union talking about how global warming is or is not a conspiracy. I was in the commuter group after my first year when I was stuck in the dorms on campus. I like to think this group has the best benefit because working part time gives you a chance to figure out what working at a job is like and you end up better prepared when 4 (or is it 5 now?) years passes by quicker than you realize.



There are other groups, but I can't seem to think of any more that are as large as these. Unfortunately, I never noticed a 'auto detailers' group because if you're studying as much as you should be, you won't have the time to spend 4-5 hours giving your car a wash and wax.



I may have divulged some information that people don't pick up until they've been in college for a while, but I'll give you the benefit of knowing how it COULD BE beforehand.
 
Lol I'm applying to colleges for the 2nd time... spent 1.5 years at a small private engineering college, decided the work wasn't for me, and now I'm looking at going to a large state school for finance. Don't get too down on yourself if you don't get in where you want to.
 
Since I got out of school before you guys were born any comments from me about applications or admissions would be totally meaningless. I just have to say that going away to school was beyond any doubt the best way for me.



I sure wasn’t any party animal either. I don’t drink and as an engineering nerd you were more likely to find me in the computer center (there weren’t any pc’s back then) or library on a Saturday night doing homework than at a party.



But I had a lot of great experiences and made some great friends. Those really were some of the best times of my life (sorry kpagel, didn’t mean to rub that in).



Heck, in a few minutes we’re going to a birthday party for a daughter of a guy I went to college with.





PC.
 
truzoom said:
To the OP- what field of work do you hope to go into? I'm not trying to put down universities, but relevant work experience seems to have a higher influence on getting a job in the competitive market. For areas that involve science and research or business, you'll benefit from a reputable university, but if you plan on a graduate level degree or a job in the humanities or social sciences, any 4-year school and a good GPA will be good. This is what I have found, but it could be different depending on what area of the country you live in.



I really have no idea. I'm definitely going to some sort of 4-year liberal arts college. The reason I started this thread was that I didn't get into a LOT of schools I expected to get into, and I noticed that's how it was with a lot of my friends, too. I don't think I overestimated myself; looking at my grades, SAT, and portfolio I thought I should have been into a lot of schools that rejected me. I was wondering if this was becoming a pattern across the board or anything, and the answers given so far seem pretty logical.
 
Well, you could go to a CC and transfer. That's the only way I got into the schools I did. I missed about 50 days a year in high school. I was sweet. I somehow managed to have great grades despite this.



It's not a popular idea among high school seniors, and transferring really is a hassle in itself. Rochester wanted me to submit a syllabus and a description for all 23 or so classes I took. Cornell accepted a maximum of 60 credits, but they didn't make it inconvenient. They also have a transfer house (dorm) for transfers, and a lot of students transfer, so it's possible to still get the college experience without feeling like the red headed stepchild. Transferring to SUNY Buffalo was easy since they are both SUNY schools. It's still a huge adjustment academically and socially.



Of course there's also that horrible money thing. Not owing Sally Mae any money really makes me happy right now.
 
I don't know what the school system is like in NY, but in Ca if you attend a CC and plan to transfer to the Cal State University (CSU) or University of California (UC) systems, they can give you a definite plan of action for what courses you need to take and they tell you up front what will and won't transfer. It actually seems pretty painless, they give you the flow chart for what classes you need and when you're close to fulfilling the requirements, start applying for transfer.



Again, thats California and really only applies if you're transferring to one of the two state university systems so YMMV.
 
I'm not to the point of needing to go the CC/transfer route. I still got into a few darn good schools...Binghamton and Geneseo...but I expected to get into a lot more.
 
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