Help with Winter process

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aceshigh73

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Hi all...


I have a Daily Driver that I would like to start getting ready for NY weather and knowing that I will have little time to detail the car once it gets cold.

Here's what I have....
(I will polish out swirls before I start this in all likelyhood)

EX
EX-P
NB
S&W
S&G
QW+

What Id like is maximum durability and long lasting shine.....
I was thinking EX-P x2 then topped with NB, but once I top with NB, I cant go back and redo my EX-P layer without worrying about bonding...

Can I skip the EX-P and go EX from the start (since its xxxx based) x2, top with NB, then on a nice day go back and put EX layer on again? and then NB topper again?

Im sure the winter months will take its toll on the LSP, but I dont want to have to worry if its "all off"....

Thanks

edit: forgot I just got QW+ as well...
 
aceshigh73 said:
Hi all...


I have a Daily Driver that I would like to start getting ready for NY weather and knowing that I will have little time to detail the car once it gets cold.

Here's what I have....
(I will polish out swirls before I start this in all likelyhood)

EX
EX-P
NB
S&W
S&G
QW+

What Id like is maximum durability and long lasting shine.....
I was thinking EX-P x2 then topped with NB, but once I top with NB, I cant go back and redo my EX-P layer without worrying about bonding...

Can I skip the EX-P and go EX from the start (since its xxxx based) x2, top with NB, then on a nice day go back and put EX layer on again? and then NB topper again?

Im sure the winter months will take its toll on the LSP, but I dont want to have to worry if its "all off"....

Thanks

edit: forgot I just got QW+ as well...
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I wold lay down 2x or 3x of the EX its a straight sealant then do your best over the winter to keep the car cleaned up with the S&W and S&G.
 
I'm with Beemer,

I would go with a sealant 2 at best then maintain the finish with S&G , QW+ or whatever else you choose..
 
Granted the winter months are not too great in New York, but....
Here in Iowa which also has a nasty winter season, I usually can find a day or two when I can add another coat of my LSP.
Don't just give up on taking care of the finish. A 50 degree day can be all you need to get some more protection on.
Maybe even talk a friend into letting you use his/her garage for an hour.

Charles
 
aceshigh73 said:
Will EX "last" as long as EX-P all things being equal?
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Yes, the only thing you may notice is a little loss of gloss, but if you maintain like Charles said on a semi-warm day with QW+ or another coat it will continue to look great and protect....

I would do 2-3 coats of EX, then top with 2-3 coats of Natty's Blue and then add another coat of Natty's when you have a chance throughout the winter, and winters here in NY haven't been that bad the last few years...
 
Steve...

Are we talking about the same NY winters here? Wave after Wave of Nor'Easters... 18" snow dumps in 1 storm? Really, Really cold for stretches of time.... ?
Granted, we had a mild December last year.... but after that, it was real crappy!

I was thinking EX then Natty's.... maybe I'll go that route.... Just have to stay out of the carwashes!!!
 
aceshigh73 said:
Steve...

Are we talking about the same NY winters here? Wave after Wave of Nor'Easters... 18" snow dumps in 1 storm? Really, Really cold for stretches of time.... ?
Granted, we had a mild December last year.... but after that, it was real crappy!

I was thinking EX then Natty's.... maybe I'll go that route.... Just have to stay out of the carwashes!!!
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It didn't seem that bad to me :lol: ..so we had a storm or two ;)
 
same here it wasn't too bad last year only it was very cold as far as snow goes we only got 1 storm that was anything to talk about..
 
CharlesW said:
Granted the winter months are not too great in New York, but....
Here in Iowa which also has a nasty winter season, I usually can find a day or two when I can add another coat of my LSP.
Don't just give up on taking care of the finish. A 50 degree day can be all you need to get some more protection on.
Maybe even talk a friend into letting you use his/her garage for an hour.

Charles
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Do you waterless wash (S&W) AND polish before your winter sealant applications, or do you just add a sealant without polishing? (assuming your wax layer is completely gone by this point)
 
anolin said:
Do you waterless wash (S&W) AND polish before your winter sealant applications, or do you just add a sealant without polishing? (assuming your wax layer is completely gone by this point)
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Usually I only S&W and add the LSP. If we happen to get one of those exceptionally nice days, I might be able to polish and wax/seal. By the time warm weather rolls around, the vehicle is ready for a total detail, but I do feel that I have done about everything I can do to protect the finish during the winter.

Charles
 
aceshigh73 said:
Anything wrong with adding wax or sealant on 30-something degree days as long as its dry weather?
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The time required for it to be ready to remove would probably be quite long.
My own esperience has been that temperatures below 50 dgrees seem to give me some problems. Smearing, difficulty in removing in particular. That includes S&W as well for me.
The only cleaning I do below 50 degrees is the windows and lights with some windshield washer fluid in a spray bottle.

Charles
 
I do just sealants in the winter months..

me and steve talked about this and he said it might not make a differance but i think wax would tend to make salt and sand stick more..

it's just the way I feel.....


Plus i have a TON of SG and i could use it every day this winter and still have a lot left over..
 
I have used wax and sealants below 50 degs the only problem i've seen where set and curing times. I did have S&W ice up once . I have also used QEW in the garage when temps where at 27 degs one time and one time only.

i just couldn't bring my self to the car wash to ruin the finish i spent 8hrs to correct..

Like Charles said you will find a day or two when the weather breaks thats when you need to take advantage of the situation and apply whatever product you choose. Have Fun and dress warm :)
 
What I do is lay down as many layers of EX-P as I can. Then I'd top with Natty's as much as I could. Last year I had 7 layers of EX-P and 15 coats of Blue on my car.My wife and daughter's cars had 5 coats of EX-P and 5 coats of Blue. I thought it held up well. I start this winterization process in mid October.
Whenever I got a break in the weather(40 degrees or above) I would then do a wash and wax job on them.I had no problems applying or removing the wax. Remember though the thinner the layer the easier it is to take off
The winter dirt and grime would slide off the car as I began to wash.
 
joe.p said:
<snip> I did have S&W ice up once . <snip>
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I nearly fell out of my chair picturing joe.p shivering in his garage and QDing his car with a microfiber covered in icicles:lmfao .

(The sad part is, that will be me this year... thanks a lot, DC!)
 
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