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TN9thSi

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My relatively new car has a bad case of the swirls. Partly my fault but mostly due to the monkeys at the body-shop with thier rotary and washing with a nasty rag. The pics clearly show the damage. I have been reading all the posts about removing such marks, but am a bit confused on what to use for what condition. I have tried some Meg's #9 by hand and it helped slightly. I'll be ordering a PC (7424) as soon as I figure out what pads to order along with it.



I just need some guidance as to what pads to order and what products to use. I can't really feel and of the scratches with my fingernail. I should also mention I have some spider-webbing in various places. Any help is much appreciated. I can't stand to see my baby like this :down



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I've been reading that thread and the "The Definitive Porter Cable Accessorizing Thread" but am having trouble figuring out what products and pads to pair together. Guess I have some more studying to do. :D
 
I recently did the same searches. There is a lot of info on PC's. Go to CMA (www.properautocare.com) and they have some nice starter packs and instructions. The learn tool at the top of the Autopia page also has a lof of info.



I personally decided to try the Menzerna twins. I found http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24209&highlight=menzerna%20instructions and CMA have good instructions for the process. I have not yet had time to try it. I'm confident from what I've read that it'll get similar swirls out of my black WRX.
 
TnM6i I would recommend the 1z range of polishes. They are very easy to apply and remove. They do a great job and I think you will be very plesed with them. There is lots of info on them down in the 'einszett USA Forum'.



If you decide to go with them, have a look at www.detailersparadise.com Nick has a Deluxe polishing bundle on there with the PC, a set of pads and a set of all the 1z polishes.
 
TnM6i said:
My relatively new car has a bad case of the swirls. Partly my fault but mostly due to the monkeys at the body-shop with thier rotary and washing with a nasty rag.




Why not take your new car back to the body-shop and speak directly with the owner?



There is really no reason why you should be so willing to accept sub-standard work.
 
~One man’s opinion / observations ~



This is very simplistic; I would second the advice of reading the various PC threads.



Durofoam Pads From Classic Motoring Accessories (These pads require a six-inch, Velcro Backing Plate

VP-6) a 6.5" Pad size with a 6" backing plate provides a 1/4" all round clearance. The oversized foam pad isolates the backing plate from contact with the car's surface, so you can work without fear of damaging the finish with an exposed baking plate.



Colour Cutting Speed (OPM) Use For

Action

White-Light 3.5 - 4.5 Polishing, Pre-Wax Cleaner



Yellow-Medium 4.0 - 5.5 Machine Polish, SMR Compound



Grey-None/Smooth 3.5 - 4.0 < Finishing, Final Buffing



Wool-Agressive 5.5 – 6.0 Levelling or used under a bonnet



Experience unshared; is knowledge wasted…/

justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
 
mirrorfinishman said:
Why not take your new car back to the body-shop and speak directly with the owner?



There is really no reason why you should be so willing to accept sub-standard work.



I had already taken it back because they got overspray on my doors. They got the overspray off but left a mess behind. I don't trust them to do anything right. They also washed it with a dirty, gritty rag which caused the scratches shown above. I'm sure I'll save my self some dissapointment by doing it myself, plus I need the practice.



I did read the properautocare articles, very helpful, especially combined with the PC threads here. I like the full PC kit with 1Z polished, but I'm torn between that and the Menzernaa twins. Thanks for the great advice. I'll be ordering a PC and some goodies very soon :xyxthumbs
 
TnM6i,



I've used both the 1Z polishes and the Menzerna twins. Both yield excellent results, but IMO, the 1Z polishes are much easier to work with. If this is your first go 'round with a PC, I'd suggest sticking with 1Z for now, then experimenting with some of the more finicky polishes as you gain experience. I don't think you can really go wrong either way, as both 1Z and Menzerna seem to be quality products, but I think you'll have better initial results and less frustration while climbing the PC's learning curve with 1Z.



Tort
 
Well, I guess it's settled. I'll prolly order the PC/1Z package. Thanks for the great advice, as always, guys! Now I'm getting excited to give my car a complete detail.
 
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