Help w/ swirls

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I need some suggestions on trying to get out some swirls out of my sister’s emerald green SUV. Help in the sense of compound recommendations. I use a PC and Meguiar’s polishing and finishing pads. I’ve used Meg’s M83 but I find it not so user friendly (i.e., can’t allow it to dry before wiping off, sometimes leaves a hazy look you have to polish out).

So, it would be nice if the recommended compounds can be used in the sun and polished to a dry finish. Anyway, I was considering Danase’s swirl abolisher or PB’s SSR or ?. I realize there are spokespeople for both companies on here so I’m just looking for an easy to use and effective product not to start anything.

TIA
 
Playr said:
I need some suggestions on trying to get out some swirls out of my sister’s emerald green SUV. Help in the sense of compound recommendations. I use a PC and Meguiar’s polishing and finishing pads. I’ve used Meg’s M83 but I find it not so user friendly (i.e., can’t allow it to dry before wiping off, sometimes leaves a hazy look you have to polish out).

So, it would be nice if the recommended compounds can be used in the sun and polished to a dry finish. Anyway, I was considering Danase’s swirl abolisher or PB’s SSR or ?. I realize there are spokespeople for both companies on here so I’m just looking for an easy to use and effective product not to start anything.

TIA
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Since you said to use in the sun Poorboys is one that comes to mind, its easy to put on and take off, sun freindly and priced right...I would start with his SSR 1 & 2.5 the later of the two will cut pretty good so start with the 1 using a cutting pad and see how that works, if you want to remove more then the 2.5 is the choice same pad...after use the 1 and a polishing pad to clean up the finish...then you are ready for the sealant or wax
 
Two others that deserve consideration are Wolfgang's new Total Swirl Remover powered by Menzerna. Haven't tried it yet but I bet it is gonna be a winner.

The other is the new Four Star Ultimate Scratch and Swirl Remover. I have used that one and I really like it. It's formulated specifically for Dual Action Polishers. The only problem I have had with it is a bit of dusting but I think it was because I was using too much. It makes pretty short work of polishing out swirls so a little dust is worth it to me.
 
Hummmm, i might have to try that Four Star Ultimate Scratch and Swirl Remover sometime in the near future.
 
I've always had good luck with both SSR and Swirl Abolishers. I've been using the Swirl Abolishers recently, but I did a car the other day that I had to dip into some SSR and they worked about the same. So it really comes down to what else do you plan to buy at the same time and where can you satisfy that need? There are a few places that carry Danase and Poorboy's at the same time I'm sure.
 
In my experience, it's doubtfull swirls will be removed with a PC (aka: DA polisher), they may be able to be filled, but not remover. Please read this post which might help in deciphering the problem.

As for how you're using #83, IMO, it sounds like two things might be happening, one is maybe you're using to much product, the other is you might not be working it long enough; pad selection will also play a huge part in the end results.

Hope this helps :)
 
dr_detail said:
In my experience, it's doubtfull swirls will be removed with a PC (aka: DA polisher), they may be able to be filled, but not remover.
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It all depends how aggressively the swirls were put in.

Grinding with a wool pad and cheap rubbing compound or even buffing with any compound improperly will leave tough (sometimes impossible) to remove swirl marks.

If the high speed (rotary) polisher is used properly with a quality product that breaks down well. Even with a wool pad I can buff out a car leaving very easy to remove swirls and yes the DA (dual-action polisher) removes them and not covers them up (with the right pad and product).

The fact that you can't really tell how deep swirls are by looking at them is what makes quoting jobs a bit difficult. A test spot is always the ideal way to go. It not only shows your customer what you can do, but also gives you an idea of the time and work it will take you.
 
A DA can remove swirls, its just the process will take a bit longer...

I like the idea of the test spot like Troy mentioned...I do this for customers who want just a wash and wax. I will do a 2' x 2' area on their car and show them how the finish should look, at which that point they can make a choice on doing the rest of the car or not.
 
dr_detail said:
As for how you're using #83, IMO, it sounds like two things might be happening, one is maybe you're using to much product, the other is you might not be working it long enough; pad selection will also play a huge part in the end results.

Hope this helps :)
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You're probably right. If I use too much, that hazing happpens, if I use less, it dries up on me as I'm working it. I'm working in the shade BTW. I just need to experiment with it longer, but in the meantime I most like will use one of these other products.

Thanks folks.
 
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