Help for a ResistAll sucker

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Blues101

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I’m one of those naïve people that got suckered into a dealer’s “Appearance Protectionâ€� program. I bought a black Audi A6, and was concerned enough about having a black car that I figured it couldn’t hurt. Audi uses the ResistAll product, which I understand is actually pretty good as far as these things go. There’s no fine print about having to reapply, and it protects against water spots, bird crap, etc.



I understand this was probably a mistake, and that a good detail job would have provided comparable (and probably even better looking) protection. However, I’m now wondering what’s the best way to keep the black paint job looking its best? Should I wax in a few months over the ResistAll? If so, which one/kind is best to apply over the ResistAll? I’ve read up on the importance of a proper wash, but is there anything else I should do?



Thanks for your help.
 
:welcome to the board



Before you do anything else, I would definitely recommend downloading David B's free detailing guide.



Autopia Detailing Guide



This will help answer many questions and get you headed in the correct direction.
 
Chances are whatever they used may even be already gone, depends on wheither you've ran through any auto car washes lately. And to be honest, they prob. just took it in back and had some kid slap it on your car any old way, swirling it all up. Yeah, the whole super duper, cleans your teeth, washes your dog, stands up to fire type protection, theres no such thing. You MIGHT get quite a few months out of a good sealant if you treat it properly. I too was suckered into buying Chryslers paint protection program whenever I bought my car, and to be honest, I don't think they even did anything to it! Then I discovered this place. The autopia detailing guide covers a LOT of things, give it a thorough read.
 
If this is like GLARE it should last roughly 6 months-if the car is swirl free apply a coat of your favorite sealant over it. Otherwise polish and then apply sealant
 
Neo62381 said:
Chances are whatever they used may even be already gone, depends on wheither you've ran through any auto car washes lately. And to be honest, they prob. just took it in back and had some kid slap it on your car any old way, swirling it all up. Yeah, the whole super duper, cleans your teeth, washes your dog, stands up to fire type protection, theres no such thing. You MIGHT get quite a few months out of a good sealant if you treat it properly. I too was suckered into buying Chryslers paint protection program whenever I bought my car, and to be honest, I don't think they even did anything to it! Then I discovered this place. The autopia detailing guide covers a LOT of things, give it a thorough read.
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I looked through the detailing guide but didn't see anything about how to properly care for paint protection applications. I've only had the car for a week, so no car washes yet. There are a few swirl marks, although by and large they seem to have done a pretty good job at application. So -- how do I (or should I) get rid of the few swirl marks? Should I apply wax over the ResistAll? if so which one?



Thanks again. COol forum :grinno:
 
wannafbody said:
If this is like GLARE it should last roughly 6 months-if the car is swirl free apply a coat of your favorite sealant over it. Otherwise polish and then apply sealant
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The only thing I've ever polished is my guitar :rofl



Now that I have a car worth polishing, what would you recommend for a polish and sealant for a black car with a ResistAll coat (if the ResistAll even matters)? It does have just a few swirl marks.



Thanks :thx
 
Blues101 said:
The only thing I've ever polished is my guitar :rofl



Now that I have a car worth polishing, what would you recommend for a polish and sealant for a black car with a ResistAll coat (if the ResistAll even matters)? It does have just a few swirl marks.



Thanks :thx
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I would suggest you treat your new car as if there was no ResistAll. Use the guide and listen to advice here on the forum to learn how best to care for your car's finish. If you want to remove swirls, you'll learn the process here. If you want to know the favorite wax's and sealants used by members of the forum, you're in the right place.

I'd just forget about the ResistAll and treat it like it's just a new car. If you want to go and have the dealership sealant redone at intervals as required (and then deal with the swirls they leave on your car), then do so, but then continue to treat the car as you would without the treatment..............Tom



Welcome to the forum :wavey
 
Even though you say there are only a few swirls, I'd bet that there is a glaze under the ResistAll, or possibly that the ResistAll itself contains fillers. Dealerships rarely release a car with no swirls. I'm sorry to say that your car probably has a lot of hidden swirls, and once you use a polish or cleaner, those swirls will show up. This will also happen over time as the ResistAll wears off.



I would do a search here, and look over the Guide to Detailing, to determine what you should buy to get started caring for your black Audi.



Items I'd highly recommend:



Sheepskin wash mitts (one for paint, one for wheels)

Two buckets (one for wash solution, one for rinsing)

PC 7424/7336sp orbital polisher

Propel pads http://www.exceldetail.com

Poorboy's SSR polishes

Klasse AIO

Poorboy's Nattys Blue Paste Wax



:welcome to Autopia! :wavey
 
White95Max said:
Even though you say there are only a few swirls, I'd bet that there is a glaze under the ResistAll, or possibly that the ResistAll itself contains fillers.
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Not likely. Glaze equals more time and product = less profit. But the real culprit is too much time. And a glaze would compromise the durability.



ResistAll is a very good normal sealant, about the equivalent of 4* Platinum, tweaked toward durability rather than appearance. If it is applied properly using clean applicators on a new finish, you should expect no more swirls than a typical application of Zaino.



Other than that I've had my say on these products many times, and I think that exile said it best; care for your car as if there was no paint sealant on it. There's nothing special about that top coat that makes it any harder (or easier) to care for. Use clean high quality materials and avoid introducing swirls. When the finish starts to lose its luster, wax it with a good wax/synthetic; lord knows there are lots of choices, and everyone has a favorite.





Tom
 
Mosca said:
Not likely. Glaze equals more time and product = less profit. But the real culprit is too much time. And a glaze would compromise the durability.



ResistAll is a very good normal sealant, about the equivalent of 4* Platinum, tweaked toward durability rather than appearance. If it is applied properly using clean applicators on a new finish, you should expect no more swirls than a typical application of Zaino.



Other than that I've had my say on these products many times, and I think that exile said it best; care for your car as if there was no paint sealant on it. There's nothing special about that top coat that makes it any harder (or easier) to care for. Use clean high quality materials and avoid introducing swirls. When the finish starts to lose its luster, wax it with a good wax/synthetic; lord knows there are lots of choices, and everyone has a favorite.





Tom
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OK thanks. But regarding the minor swirls, are those underneath the ResistAll? If so (or even if not), what's the best way to get rid of them before applying wax or sealant without taking off the clearcoat or ResistAll? I can't find the answer to that question in the literature I've reviewed so far.



Thanks again.
 
Yes, they're certainly underneath the ResistAll, which means you cannot remove them without first removing the ResistAll coating.
 
White95Max said:
Yes, they're certainly underneath the ResistAll, which means you cannot remove them without first removing the ResistAll coating.
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OK, last question:



Since the swirls are minor, and since I just (stupidly) paid for ResistAll, sounds like my best option is to (1) keep from introducing more swirls during washing (which I assume would be on top of the ResistAll), (2) and in a few months apply a good sealer. I assume hand application would be appropriate in this case.



In a year or two, if and when I'm ready to remove the ResistAll, I can then deal with the swirls underneath.



Sound about right?
 
If you introduce more swirls, they will likely be through the ResistAll and into the clearcoat. Only the most extremely minor scratches will be limited to the ResistAll layer.



I doubt it will last for a year or two. I'd just pretend that it's not there and tackle those swirls. You'll know better than to buy that coating in the future.

You've got a brand new black Audi, it deserves to look incredible.
 
White95Max said:
If you introduce more swirls, they will likely be through the ResistAll and into the clearcoat. Only the most extremely minor scratches will be limited to the ResistAll layer.



I doubt it will last for a year or two. I'd just pretend that it's not there and tackle those swirls. You'll know better than to buy that coating in the future.

You've got a brand new black Audi, it deserves to look incredible.
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+1



Really, don't worry about removing the ResistAll. It's pretty sticky stuff, but even with the best care it will be gone in about a year.



Keep in mind that no one can tell when the ResistAll ISN"T there, either. If you do happen to get acid rain marks or bird drop etchings, you can still file a ResistAll claim. That's what the money was REALLY for; the chemicals are a smoke screen, a red herring, a McGuffin. You paid for what is called a performance guarantee.



I agree with W95M, enjoy your new car!





Tom
 
White95Max said:
If you introduce more swirls, they will likely be through the ResistAll and into the clearcoat. Only the most extremely minor scratches will be limited to the ResistAll layer.



I doubt it will last for a year or two. I'd just pretend that it's not there and tackle those swirls. You'll know better than to buy that coating in the future.

You've got a brand new black Audi, it deserves to look incredible.
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+1



Keep in mind that no one can tell when the ResistAll ISN"T there, either. If you do happen to get acid rain marks or bird drop etchings, you can still file a ResistAll claim. That's what the money was REALLY for; the chemicals are a smoke screen, a red herring, a McGuffin. You paid for what is called a performance guarantee.



I agree with W95M, enjoy your new car!





Tom
 
Mosca said:
+1



Really, don't worry about removing the ResistAll. It's pretty sticky stuff, but even with the best care it will be gone in about a year.



Keep in mind that no one can tell when the ResistAll ISN"T there, either. If you do happen to get acid rain marks or bird drop etchings, you can still file a ResistAll claim. That's what the money was REALLY for; the chemicals are a smoke screen, a red herring, a McGuffin. You paid for what is called a performance guarantee.



I agree with W95M, enjoy your new car!





Tom
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OK, thanks guys :2thumbs:



From what I can tell, my best bet for the next year seems to be Klasse AIO and sealant glaze. The minor swirls are not worth tackling at this point, but after a year or so I'll probably want to polish them out. I assume the Klasse stuff over the next year will improve the look of the finish over the current ResistAll appearance, or will I be wasting my time until the ResistAll is gone?
 
AIO all the way....especially when it has time to cure(in my case 1day-4 weeks)! I have an 05' white 230C Benz and it seems that the more time goes by the better it looks with AIO. I haven't washed my car in 3-4 weeks...atleast (do to weather) and my car still has a deep look as well as feeling smooth as glass!
 
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