Heavy Brake Dust vs. ArmorAll Wheel Protectant

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Josiah

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So what chemicals do you use in your biz?



I am planning on using Meguiar's for the most part, but for someone who wants a great shine, best protection, and is willing to pay for it, I will use Klasse, Zaino (which I have yet to get good with), and Blackfire eventually.



I think it is important to judge what the customer is willing to pay, and what they want by asking them key questions. I think that the Cadillac owner will want protection and his car to look good, while the guy that has two new Porches and a new Firebird (or whatever) just might want his cars to look fantastic, and be able to afford it.



Thoughts?

Josiah
 
BTW, BlackFire might be a GREAT product to use, since it goes on so quick.



How does the depth compare to Souvaren is the question.



Josiah
 
I use some products from Production Car Care (Red Baron, their Polymer and Prime) some from Valueguard ( OEM One Step and Pre Conditioner and ABC) and one from Megquiers ( Dual Action Machine Polish). Any product line you wish to get involved with will have a sales rep in your Area most of them are very knowledgeable and can give you samples to try. They also sell you all their products at wholesale prices by the gal. or 5 gal drum. The criteria I select my products on are based primarily on their performance secondly on the price. My business is based on my reputation so the products I use have to leave the customer totally pleased. I started with 3 customers and thru word of mouth I now have 40 repeating and I am not excepting any other clients as it is a weekend cash business.
 
Corvette Forum has quite a thread going over there about this product. (It's actually a 13-page thread! See link below...)

The newer model C6/Z06 and C6/Grand Sports have the "Big Brakes", 14" fronts, cross-drilled and 6 piston calipers. The brake pads are designed to be for track/competion. Therefore the pads are pretty soft so they will really grip those big rotors.

The result? TONS of brake dust!!!! More than you can imagine!

There's the way the wheel should look when clean:

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Here's a picture of a wheel (just like mine actually) after the driver drove for a few hours on dry hiways. Hardly any braking involved.

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I was having the same problem with SEVERE brake dust. After a 50 mile drive, my wheels were BROWN!

I gave Armor All Wheel Protectant a shot. Well....... after driving another 150 miles, they still look clean!

They are so slick that the brake dust just won't stick. What little does stick, can be easily wiped off with a swiffer duster.


Worth a try for HEAVY brake dust.

See my revised opinion of this product in Post #35.
 
Very interesting Bill. I never thought that I would even think about using this, as I have tried the Eagle 1 product and absolutely hated it. I figured this would be the same. Maybe, I will give it a try.
 
Glad you posted this Bill. I'm getting ready to scrap these POS Red Stuff pads and go back to my OEM Volvo Brembo Brakes. The OEMs are awesome, but I replaced them due to the dust. However, now I sound like a city bus, so I'd rather deal with the dust.

I've coated my R's wheels and my wifes XC90 Sport's 19" Wheels with wheel wax and also gave them the fire over ice treatment with not much success. The dust comes off very easily, which is nice, but it sure doesn't help to repel any dust whatsoever.

That picture you posted is unreal!
 
I just picked up a couple of cans, we'll see how it goes. I plan on changing brakes next week sometime, so I'll clean the rims thoroughly at that point and give this stuff a try. Got a free jug of car wash with the purchase of two cans too! :clap:
 
Of course, the best answer for brake dust is to change the brake pads to ceramics, but this, at least, keeps most of the dust off the wheels.

I just returned from a 40 mile drive... no dust.

:biggrin:
 
Luster said:
Of course, the best answer for brake dust is to change the brake pads to ceramics, but this, at least, keeps most of the dust off the wheels.

I just returned from a 40 mile drive... no dust.

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If you give it the thumbs up:thumbup:, that's good enough for me. I will give it a try.
 
Luster said:
Of course, the best answer for brake dust is to change the brake pads to ceramics, but this, at least, keeps most of the dust off the wheels.

I just returned from a 40 mile drive... no dust.

:biggrin:
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Yeah, I did that switch and am not pleased at all. The bite is not near what the OEM is, especially when they get hot and I seriously sound like a Defenbaugh Truck when I come to a stop, it's horrible. I don't know if my OEM rotors/calipers just don't like these pads or what, but they have squealed from day 1. I'll gladly deal with the dust instead of making dogs howl in the neighborhood when I come to a stop.

Can't wait to try this AA stuff though, seems cool.
 
Husker Z said:
Yeah, I did that switch and am not pleased at all. The bite is not near what the OEM is, especially when they get hot and I seriously sound like a Defenbaugh Truck when I come to a stop, it's horrible. I don't know if my OEM rotors/calipers just don't like these pads or what, but they have squealed from day 1. I'll gladly deal with the dust instead of making dogs howl in the neighborhood when I come to a stop.

Can't wait to try this AA stuff though, seems cool.
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The instructions say to let it dry for an hour.....

I've found that applying it at night and then letting it dry overnight works better.
 
Husker,

I thought the EBC reds were more of a track pad, needed lots of heat? I had the greens though (more street side), they were just as squeaky, had to go back to OEM, with slotted discs the OEM worked almost as good, no squeaks (this was on an Acura TL Type-S).
 
Indy YZF said:
Husker,

I thought the EBC reds were more of a track pad, needed lots of heat? I had the greens though (more street side), they were just as squeaky, had to go back to OEM, with slotted discs the OEM worked almost as good, no squeaks (this was on an Acura TL Type-S).
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Actually, the yellows are more for tracks. I based my decision off of this information on their website:

"Low dust street use on prestige imports (silent braking required)"

Either way, I'm taking them off and going back to the OEM Brembos, I'll deal with the dust. It's not like I can go more than a few days without washing my car anyway.:biggrin:
 
There are a lot of guys on Corvette Forum who change their pads weekly!

Friday night they put on the softer OEM (high-dust, but good grip!) pads for TRACK.

Then on Sunday after Track Days, the Ceramics go back on for street!

(An aweful lot of work in my book!!!:rofl:)
 
The AA Wheel Protectant really does work, but 1 or 2 days of driving in the rain and a lot of the protection wears off. Also, the protection in general doesn't seem to hang on for more than two weeks. But it's crazy because wheel sealants and waxes tend to make this claim, but they end up doing nothing to repel brake dust, except for making the wheels easier to clean in the future. This OTC product really works wonders for the first two weeks!
 
Emile said:
The AA Wheel Protectant really does work, but 1 or 2 days of driving in the rain and a lot of the protection wears off. Also, the protection in general doesn't seem to hang on for more than two weeks. But it's crazy because wheel sealants and waxes tend to make this claim, but they end up doing nothing to repel brake dust, except for making the wheels easier to clean in the future. This OTC product really works wonders for the first two weeks!
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Water will definitely wash it off. It's a dry weather fix only!:iagree:
 
I've been using this wheel protectant since it came out with great results. My biggest issue is the slight white residue that can be seen when the wheels have a darker tint (like gunmetal grey). I usually do two applications and let it sit overnight. I wipe off the residue and apply one coat of PB wheel sealant. My wheels stay fairly clean for about three months. I have a 60 mile daily commute. I don't wash my vehicle as often as I should :(
 
I applied this late yesterday to my wheels and today the black part of my wheels look like a greasy film is on them .NOT pretty , I wiped it off with a towel. The chrome part of the wheel looks fine .

It was a very dark day high humidity when I applied it I wonder if that had something to do with it . Or maybe I applied too much ?

It also kind of messed up my tire dressing so so far Im not really too thrilled but Im willing to play around with it a little and see if I can get it to work for me.

update:so i reapplied what I had wiped off and still got the filmy look AGAIN and upon inspecting further I saw what another member was talking about, a whitish haze.

I have to say thumbs down on this product for black wheels anyway .
I will probably just wash it off at this point i dont care if it repells brake dust I would rather have nice looking wheels and clean them more often than have them look like this.
 
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