grrrr....it's now officially ONR time and I'm hesitent

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pingable

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for all the accolade of positive reviews and experiences with ONR on the forum, I for one am still VERY hesitant about using ONR. There is not really a local powerwash facility near me or brushless which I would consider as a 1st prewash/prerinse prior to ONR.



And as much as the majority of members here swear by it, maybe it's my technique, my materials/tools of choice, etc but I am very hesitant to use it, especially on my Jet Black vehicles. I just feel it's not a true mar-free product for my needs.



It's too cold to use the hose if not having standing water even if I did.



So I guess I'm resorting to using ONR for the 1st time this winter season...we shall see how it goes on this round.
 
thanks bigpikle, i,ve been reading an eye opening thread of yours on DW about waste water.

regards

dennis.



is this stuff available in the uk ?
 
well, the cars are clean now.....



I can't recall how I used it last year - water temp wise but today, I ran 2 buckets of straight HOT water from the tap. the drying media is relatively clean and the wash media (sheepskin) .....well, it's still grimey and soaking in APC water.



This was one of the things that irritated me last time I used it. I did not like how the after 1 use of ONR, the was media was grimey. Ontop of that, while I did not plan on taking APC to the wash media and scrubbing it clean, I would have expected it to rinse clean in a clear bucket. I suppose whatever polymer agents it use, etc to lift the grime from the surface could be a factor on why the media is what it is.Or maybe it's a combo of the media itself (sheepskin) and ONR.



I've got the mitts soaking. Let's see how they clean out this time around.
 
I've read that sheepskin mitts tend to get very dirty when washing with ONR and it's difficult to get them clean again. A lot of people use grout sponges instead (just washed my car with ONR an hour ago with a grout sponge) and it didn't get that dirty. If I'm concerned about too much dirt or debris, I'll spray the questionable areas with ONR wash strength first.
 
I used to use a MF sponge but moved on to my Zymol sponges that I got from Auto Anything. Seems to work pretty well and it seems softer than the normal GS sponges people usually buy :)
 
eyezack87 said:
I used to use a MF sponge but moved on to my Zymol sponges that I got from Auto Anything. Seems to work pretty well and it seems softer than the normal GS sponges people usually buy :)
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had i known that you were looking for the zymol sponge, i would of sold you mine. not a big fan of them...
 
Haha, I'm sure my friend is interested. I'll send you PM if he ever decides to buy one from someone/somewhere ;)



(I'm keeping all of mine :grinno:)
 
Any detergent will make the media release the grime. Just toss them into the washer with your normal clothing detergent.
 
call me old skool - call me hot headed but I still prefer SS mitts as my wash media of choice. Between that and if I need to , a BHB prior. Still have a couple of new cotton chenille sponges sitting in my detailing supply stash. Never have tried a MF sponge. I prefer something with a longer nap when taking it to paint and washing a car. MF ----great on clean car, but not long enough nap for my creature comforts as a washing media agent.



And yes, the SS mitts did not clean 100% - closer to 40-50% clean. I soaked them with APC, rinsed, soaked with APC+water again, and 2 more rinse/soaks. I admit I did not take a stiff brush to agitate/clean my SS mitts. This would loosen the wool off the mitt for sure though.
 
chefwong- Some MF mitts have pretty long nap. Not like sheepskin, but long enough that *that* won't be the root cause of any marring.



Good luck with the ONR washes, I understand your trepidation.
 
When I initially started using ONR I tried my SS mitts used for conventional washes but found they were too difficult to control the amount of ONR solution and they soiled badly. I found these MF mitts Micro Fiber Mitts | Microfiber which have a nap of about 1/2". They soil like the SS, but I just throw them into the washing machine with laundry detergent and a little Dawn and they come out like new. They work great with the ONR and have introduced no marring. The nap is long enough to trap particles, but they release with a quick wipe over the grit guard.
 
My first ONR was on a black Subaru Legacy, so I was hesitant. Take your time, go slow, and enjoy it! Don't push down and pay attention to the way the wash mit feels on the paint. Now I don't want to use anything else!
 
serge03 said:
Now I don't want to use anything else!
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I would seriously consider getting out of the detailing business if I had to go back to washing cars conventionally other than the odd mud caked vehicle I run across a few times a year. No joke either. Rinseless washing, regardless of which product is so much easier and faster for me.
 
Scottwax said:
I would seriously consider getting out of the detailing business if I had to go back to washing cars conventionally other than the odd mud caked vehicle I run across a few times a year. No joke either. Rinseless washing, regardless of which product is so much easier and faster for me.
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I finally put ONR to a proper test last week after my girlfriend borrowed my car. She is an equestrian trainer and works between two stables, needless to say my car was many levels of DIRTY.



I will be making a thread shortly, with images and details to outline my entire experience. I will say that without a doubt, I am now an ONR faithful. It was quick, easy, could be done regardless of weather or time of day and introduced NO marring. I followed the steps on the bottle, used a single bucket and a PROFORCE MF cloth (Sam's Club Specials) and had no issues to speak of.



The only complaint I could fathom, but I haven't tested just yet is the little annoyance of having to carry my drying towel around with me instead of washing the entire car THEN drying the entire car.



EDIT: One tip I think I should reiterate here was to fold the MF three times, giving 16 distinct squares of which to wipe with. That should be plenty to ensure a clean 'fold' for each panel. I have to thank Yvan from Repare-Brise for this Top Tip.
 
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