Good News for Domestics...

The domestic manufactures need to to focus more right now because of all the new models coming out.

If they do not get them right they can drop fast.
That is one thing about not changing so often something like the Crown Vic has been around forever and they have worked the bugs out but now they are dropping them.
I bought a new Focus last September and while I have not driven it a lot it has zero problems everything fits and works perfectly it is a nice small car.
The one that I'm wondering about is Chrysler will Fiat help quality or not??
Some of the Fiats in the past have not been very reliable.
 
I wonder what my American brand car that is based upon a Japanese frame design and made in Mexico means?
 
Bunky said:
I wonder what my American brand car that is based upon a Japanese frame design and made in Mexico means?
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It means that the manufacture is forced to look for ways to compete with the Asian manufactures that have lower labor cost and health and retirement packages.
 
G.T.Subie said:
Exactly.
The unions are killing domestic auto makers.
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It actually starts with bad (short sided) management and poor engineering.

The most over paid assembly workforce (unions) cannot fix bad designs that cannot be made efficiently or reliable after built.

If GM was the number one in reliability in the world, yet costs more due to union labor then we could have a different discussion. They do not help the situation since short sighted management is just controlling cost so where do the skimp - design, quality of materials.
 
Bunky said:
It actually starts with bad (short sided) management and poor engineering.

The most over paid assembly workforce (unions) cannot fix bad designs that cannot be made efficiently or reliable after built.

If GM was the number one in reliability in the world, yet costs more due to union labor then we could have a different discussion. They do not help the situation since short sighted management is just controlling cost so where do the skimp - design, quality of materials.
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Good point. :bigups
I wasnt' completey blamming uions for their failures.
 
The unions are not entirely to blame for the domestic's quality issues. As others have said, the best assembly line worker in the world can't fix piss-poor engineering and design.

Case in point: My '04 Santa Fe was built in Hyundai's massive Ulsan, South Korea plant which churns out 1.3 million cars a year. It has one of the strongest union work forces in Korea and is the site of frequent strikes. Despite this, my car has been very reliable and even at 141,000 miles, has only two minor rattles. I attribute this to the fact that the car was well-designed.
 
OCDinPDX said:
The unions are not entirely to blame for the domestic's quality issues. As others have said, the best assembly line worker in the world can't fix piss-poor engineering and design.

Case in point: My '04 Santa Fe was built in Hyundai's massive Ulsan, South Korea plant which churns out 1.3 million cars a year. It has one of the strongest union work forces in Korea and is the site of frequent strikes. Despite this, my car has bedesigneden very reliable and even at 141,000 miles, has only two minor rattles. I attribute this to the fact that the car was well-.
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Depends where you live as to how well engineered they are.
Here in the midwest the rear trailing arms rust off they literally fall apart going down the road.
 
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