Going to do ONR, last min questions

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1) I have a 5 gallon bucket...how much ONR to add>? I heard a capfull is equal to one-half ounce. (should I double the reccomended dosage on the bottle?)



2) Should I add ONR to rinse water?



3) Also, the QD ONR spray - it is 3 oz. (double reccomended strength) to a 32 oz. sprayer?



4) Wheels first or last?



I know, I know, tried searching but I need to get out there fast before it gets dark.
 
1) You should only be concerned if you bought the gallon size of ONR. The instructions on it are from the 32 oz bottle which suggest using the cap as a measuring tool, but the cap on the gallon bottle only holds roughly 1/2 oz whereas the cap on the 32 oz bottle holds 1 oz. If you want to make sure, someone mentioned using those plastic cups that comes with medicine like Nyquil. That should work.



2) I'm new to ONR, but when I used it I didn't add any to the rinse water. Worked fine for me.



3) You don't need 3 oz for a 32 oz bottle. 2 oz is enough as that is even stronger than the 6 oz to gallon recommendation from Optimum.



4) I think most people here do that last when using ONR, but some people like ScottWax does it first. I haven't figured out which I prefer just yet, but ONR eats through brake dust better than most people would think.
 
regarding Q4...i do the wheels last w/ ONR so i just use the remaining ONR solution after washing the vehicle...i don't want to have to use a 2nd bucket of solution or dump out the first and refill.
 
I'm finding that the recommended amount (1oz per 2 gal) seems to work fine for the cars I work on and I don't see any wash induced marring.



I use one bucket.



2oz for a 32oz bottle



I do wheels last with whatever is left in my bucket if I'm doing my cars. If I'm washing a car for someone else, I do the wheels first (was and dress), then dump out the bucket, rinse it out then make my solution to wash the car.
 
I only use one bucket and mix at 1/2oz per gallon. If car is dirtier I may use 50% more, rarely do I double the amount.
 
I just started using ONR for the winter and it's a great product. I use 1 bucket and the remainder is used for my wheels. I can probably do my car in 20-25 minutes which is great and the main reason I use ONR is because I don't have a garage and hose attachment in my house. This is quick and easy.



-Mike
 
I really like ONR. It works especially well when you have a sealant on a vehicle, and it's nice to be able to wash your car in the garage when it's 20 degrees outside. I'm not a big fan of the QD, though. It seems to lack the slickness that other QD's have.
 
Hey Guys, I didn't want to start another new ONR thread, so I'll ask here.



Is it recommended to use ONR on a REALLY dirty car or is it best to use on mildly dirty/dusty cars. Like most people this time of year, my car is FILTHY from salt & sand & I'd like to give this a try.



Also, I've read a ton of threads on ONR, but I'm still concerned about marring/scratching the paint by no rinsing. Should I not be concerned about this when I'm wiping the ONR residue off?
 
DirtySouth said:
Hey Guys, I didn't want to start another new ONR thread, so I'll ask here.



Is it recommended to use ONR on a REALLY dirty car or is it best to use on mildly dirty/dusty cars. Like most people this time of year, my car is FILTHY from salt & sand & I'd like to give this a try.



Also, I've read a ton of threads on ONR, but I'm still concerned about marring/scratching the paint by no rinsing. Should I not be concerned about this when I'm wiping the ONR residue off?
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Someone posted a very thorough thread detailing the complete rinse free wash (I believe he used QEW). It was used on a silver car I believe that was literally caked in salt. I think you will find that on here when cars are exceptionally dirty, most guys will pre-tret the area first with a QD solution of ONR via a sprayer, let it soak for a few seconds, then follow up with a normal wash of ONR.
 
Diesel1 said:
Someone posted a very thorough thread detailing the complete rinse free wash (I believe he used QEW). It was used on a silver car I believe that was literally caked in salt. I think you will find that on here when cars are exceptionally dirty, most guys will pre-tret the area first with a QD solution of ONR via a sprayer, let it soak for a few seconds, then follow up with a normal wash of ONR.
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This might be the post you were thinking of... http://autopia.org/forum/detailing-...sted-qew-writeup-using-mfs-instead-mitts.html
 
Diesel1 said:
Someone posted a very thorough thread detailing the complete rinse free wash (I believe he used QEW). It was used on a silver car I believe that was literally caked in salt. I think you will find that on here when cars are exceptionally dirty, most guys will pre-tret the area first with a QD solution of ONR via a sprayer, let it soak for a few seconds, then follow up with a normal wash of ONR.
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I think this is the thread:



Those of you scared to try ONR
 
ONR is so easy and efficient I don't think I will ever wash the conventional way again. Plus the car looks way more shiny/glossy after ONR.
 
Thanks for the links guys, but I'm still unsure. What about any pieces of grit, sand or chunks of salt that are sitting on the surface of the paint. If I just dive right in & start wiping, am I not dragging that crap over the surface of the paint?! When I say my car is dirty, I mean it is absolutely filthy. I would think a thorough rinsing with a hose or pressure wash would be necessary prior to actually wiping any sponge or mit over the surface. Does anyone understand my concern?



The link that was posted earlier, "For those of you scared to try ONR...", wasn't even that dirty & certainly nothing compared to how dirty my car is right now.
 
bill57 said:
I did not pretreat my salt-caked car, and I see some micro marring.
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I spray the dirty bits with the ONR QD mixture. Between the body and the wheels I use almost 24 oz of QD. Not seeing any marring....yet.



(Edit to correct quantity after I realized I have a 24 oz sprayer.)
 
I used a soft bristled brush similar to Megs versa-angle. The brush was pulled out of the bucket laden with the mixture, and I splashed the product onto the suface, then lightly cleaned in one direction. Immediately dried with soft terry towel. I used the towel before without a problem, and needed quick absorbtion before freezing (it was 10 degrees F). Upon drying, at the proper angle, I could see tiny lines, just as my brush strokes were made.
 
When my car is really covered in salt or dirt, like this or this, I take it to the coin-op wash first and give it a general rinse. I first spray down from a distance, to get the car wet, get some gentler running water over it, and then I go for the pressure spray, where I never get too close (2ft away typically) and just try to make sure that the entire car is rinsed:



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I feel that really helps w/ the subsequent wash in the garage (I feel safer with so much grit and dirt rinsed away) and is worth the $3.50 or whatever it costs.
 
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