Gas, $2.45/gal, yikes

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ben54

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I know this is really off topic, but with the rising gas prices, I'm trying to find a way to get ahead at the pump.

Currently, our gas prices in HI are about $2.45 for premium and about $2.20 for regular. Costco sells its gas at $2.12 for premuim and under $2 for regular but the lines are long (approx. 10 min. wait).

I have two questions that I hope someone can help me with: 1) Is there a difference between Costco's gas and Chevron's gas?; and 2) does the grade of gas (i.e. premium v. regular) make a difference in gas mileage. When I spoke with the attendant at Costco, he said that Costco gas does not contain all of the same additives as other gas, but does contain Costco's own additive. As for the mileage thing, I read a letter to the editor today where the writer claimed to get an additional 13 mpg on premium in a Buick Park Avenue. I'm extremely skeptical about his results, but I have found that premium might get me another 2-3 mpg, but I'm not sure why. When I crunch the numbers, it almost seems like it's a savings to put in premium over regular. Any comments or thoughts?
 
I talk to truckdrivers all the time. I was told discount gas stations buy what's available. A discount station could have a "name" gas as well a cheaper brand (a no name). He said he never goes "name" brand gas and has never had any fuel or engine problems due to gasoline. I'm talking fuel for vehicles not truck fuel. The mechanic who works on my cars told me it's a waste of money to put premium in a car that does not specify premium gas only. He did say that a tank of premium in my V8 chevy engine once a month would help keep my fuel injection clean but that I didn't have to. I never pay attention to miles per gallon because it wouldn't change anything for me/us.
 
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I'm old school, so I put regular in my 5.0 all the time. It did ping, but only when I really put my foot in it, so I kept that to a minimum. I guess with a V8, I never noticed the difference when I put in premium on mileage, but with my Honda Civic, I'm starting to notice a difference, not really in performance, but in mileage. I initially thought it was driving habits, or change in weather, but when I saw that article in the paper, I started to consider whether grade of gas has something to do with the increase in mileage.
 
Guess it's time for you to quit all those V8's and use more economical engines like the ones we do. I guess you're saying you pay $2.12 for one gallon of regular, well, I'm paying 1.05 euros ($ 1.25) for a litter of it (about $4.76 per gallon).

So, stop complaining and wake up for the real world!
 
jgv has a good point. The U.S. usually has the lowest gas prices by far than any other country. We are spoiled...but I like being spoiled....
 
Premium gas is a waste of money unless your car is designed to use premium. Cars with higher compression motors benefit from premium but most modern cars only require unleaded.
 
I once read, back in the early 90's, that Shell passed Mercedes gasoline test - for their premium. However, the lower octane gases of Shell were not tested but had the same cleaners and such in them. The Mercedes test requirements had to do with keeping the fuel injectors clean as I recall. Not all gasolines had such ingredients or to a degree that met Mercedes requirements. For what it's worth. Who knows what has changed since that dated article.

As for complaining about gas prices here in the US, I suppose we complain because this is where we make and live out our lives. We complain about rising healthcare costs, inflation when it is a problem, our politicians and so on. This I am sure happens in other countries quite naturally as well. We have much to be grateful for here in the US. This doesn't negate our right to complain though. If a right to complain is based upon the requirement that you have the worst of a situation, more so than any other country in the world, then complaining would be quite specific and isolated by situation. Simply not reality. Most things in life are quite relative. Nevertheless, it could be far worse and for that we can be very grateful.
 
Just remember, gas prices are all in your head.....we really are fortunate here in the States.

However, my truck shopping has lead me to an F-250 Diesel ($1.53/gallon) :lmfao
 
Maybe somebody needs to start shooting at oil company big-wigs instead of the peons. They are the ones deriving the benefits so let them be the ones to have to dodge bullets. I'm pissed off....thouroughly.
 
I don't know about all the spoiled comments , our prices have always been lower becasue we used more gas. If it continues to rise at this rate it will cause alot of people serious problems. Personally I can't take the hit of $2.00 a gallon but I'm being forced to. I drive well over 200 miles a day for work and I don't get a gas allowance so if it hits $3.00 a gallon I'll be looking for a new job.
 
Big fat deal. Unleaded in Oz is humping around at about $5/gallon and we still strap superchargers to our Gen3 350ci's - because we can.
 
detailbarn said:
I don't know about all the spoiled comments , our prices have always been lower becasue we used more gas. If it continues to rise at this rate it will cause alot of people serious problems. Personally I can't take the hit of $2.00 a gallon but I'm being forced to. I drive well over 200 miles a day for work and I don't get a gas allowance so if it hits $3.00 a gallon I'll be looking for a new job.
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I'm in the same situation as you, although I only do 120 miles per day. The recent .40 cents price increase costs me an additional $600 per year for commuting. I'm sure it won't stop there though.

I'm wondering what the typical commute is like for Europeans. Do commutes require high mileages? And I was under the impression that the public transit system in Europe is pretty efficient. Europe is a lot more condensed that the United States, which I would think means less driving.
Maybe that's why gas costs more there, less gas is used so it needs to be priced higher?
 
EZ Boy said:
Big fat deal. Unleaded in Oz is humping around at about $5/gallon and we still strap superchargers to our Gen3 350ci's - because we can.
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:yeah
 
Gas prices are high in Europe because the governments tax gas more than the US does. Federal tax is 18.4 cents per gallon. State taxes vary. The government likes petroleum taxes because they are easier to collect than many other taxes. Heres an idea, get rid of the income tax and increase fuel taxes. It would encourage fuel efficiency. The problem with the income tax is that it is hard to collect. It relies on the honesty (and fear) of the public. The downside? It could effect economic growth. No one is sure.
Here is a list of state gas taxes: http://www.lmoga.com/taxrates.htm
 
All premium gas is used for is to increase octane to prevent engine knock. It doesn't give better gas mileage. I read an article in USA Today that quoted the chairman of the gas formulation committee of the SAE. He said that his car specifies premium and he didn't bother. He said that modern cars have computer systems that automatically compensate. He views it as a waste of money. Modern cars wasn't defined, but I assume any car made from 92 on. I have a 95 Volvo. After I read the article I switched and haven't had any knocking problems. Of course, you still have to keep your car tuned. If you're driving an older high performance car, you still need it.
 
Here in Bournemouth on the south coast of England, we are paying the equivilent of $6.07 per US gallon, so think yourselves very lucky. The reason why petrol is so expensive is that for every litre sold 80% of the price is TAX and the transport system here is very poor, if you do not own a car, you are really stuffed.
 
gas here NC is bout $1.97 for Reg. and around bout $2.20 for Prem.:( But its like food you got to have it!!!!:angry
 
Palm Beach country: Regular gas climbing to almost $2.05 now, Premium as high as $2.39

:( I dont about mpg, but i can definately feel a difference in my wallet (especially because im mobile and commute quite a bit during the week).
 
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