Following 106FF with a white pad

MSOsr

MSOsr

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If I'm able to get some slight holograms off my black 2005 Cadillac CTS-V by using 106FF with a white pad (using a 7336), should I follow that with 106FF on a gray pad before going with my LSP?



Mike
 
Try doing a small area to see if you get much improvement. You might get more gloss.



Edit: BTW, if you're going to use a sealant LSP instead of a carnauba LSP, you'll want to do an IPA wipedown after you're done polishing with PO106FF. 106 will leave oils behind that interfere with sealants bonding to the clear coat. Supposedly those oils don't interfere with carnaubas, but I still follow up with an IPA wipedown after using Menz polishes anyway.
 
Hologram removal is easy, just get the Driven quick spray out and dilute it a tiny bit (not the full amount) and buff it in with a blue pad (700 to 1400 rpm)

stop buffing before the liquid flashes.

The fine polishing power of it will remove the holograms and enhance the slickness and gloss



After IPA wipedown inspection, they will be still be gone

I do this all the time to enhance paintwork wetness and seal it
 
It's well known in marine circles actually but fred at Driven gets around to some big shows these days, like Sema
 
In bright sunlight, it looks like faint spiderwebs......with very fine filament.



Is 106FF with a white pad the way to go? IP? SIP?



Mike
 
EisenHulk said:
NEWB Question:



Can you REMOVE holograms with a PC?
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porta said:
Yes, no problems at all.
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I'll qualify the above just a little...you can *USUALLY* get 'em out pretty easily with a PC, but not always. Old time (and MIA) member neoprufrok had some holograms the dealer put in his black Audi and he simply could not remove them with a PC for some reason :nixweiss So apparently certain holograms on very hard paint can be unusually tough to sort out via PC. In those cases I'd recommend 4" pads.
 
MSOsr said:
In bright sunlight, it looks like faint spiderwebs......with very fine filament.







Mike
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This is why I switched to the rotary. On some softer clear's the PC will leave little half circle marks no matter what pad or polish you use.
 
Thanks, Accumulator!!



I appreciate you adding to the info.



Accumulator said:
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I'll qualify the above just a little...you can *USUALLY* get 'em out pretty easily with a PC, but not always. Old time (and MIA) member neoprufrok had some holograms the dealer put in his black Audi and he simply could not remove them with a PC for some reason :nixweiss So apparently certain holograms on very hard paint can be unusually tough to sort out via PC. In those cases I'd recommend 4" pads.
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Just to clarify, you can get holograms using a PC/UDM. I just managed to do that last weekend. It seems the culprit is not fully breaking down a polish. I didn't completely break down Menzerna FP and it ended up holograming the soft Scion paint pretty badly. I'm gonna hit it with FP again and break it down fully to remove the damage.
 
tC_Crazy said:
Just to clarify, you can get holograms using a PC/UDM. I just managed to do that last weekend. It seems the culprit is not fully breaking down a polish. I didn't completely break down Menzerna FP and it ended up holograming the soft Scion paint pretty badly. I'm gonna hit it with FP again and break it down fully to remove the damage.
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tc_Crazy, I wouldn't recommend FP to finish on soft clears as it has a cut of 3 on a scale of 5 and gloss of 4 out of 5. Po87MC (cut of 1, gloss 5) or PO85RD (cut of 1.5, gloss 5) are a better choices.
 
You cannot always use the ceramiclear Menzerna polishes on soft paint

the abrasives are too sharp for some (from my experience)
 
SVR said:
You cannot always use the ceramiclear Menzerna polishes on soft paint

the abrasives are too sharp for some (from my experience)
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Very good point. You'll end up with really fine, half-moon shaped marring. Yuck.



FPII and/or IP make good replacements for the ceramiclear polishes on soft paint.
 
I mixed up 90ml PO87MF (FP1) and 30ml Parrafin oil in a cobalt blue 125ml bottle just for finishing off soft paint like Impreza's
 
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