Fog Clear Gel

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Does anyone have any experience using this product? I get horrible fogging in my wife's Honda Accord and the last thing you want to do is turn on the air conditioner on a cold winter day. Sounds like an interesting product. Also, does anyone know where this product could be found OTC to avoid shipping on just one item?



Fog Clear Gel
 
The reason he mentioned turning on the A/C is because it does a better job of removing interior humidity than the heater or defroster. Hence no humidity, no fog. I have never tried the brand you showed but I have tried the Rain-X version and it was absolutely worthless. Is there any chance you might have a leak in your heater core causing increased interior humidity? See if the interior smells like hot radiator coolant.



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ptaylor_9849 said:
The reason he mentioned turning on the A/C is because it does a better job of removing interior humidity than the heater or defroster. Hence no humidity, no fog. I have never tried the brand you showed but I have tried the Rain-X version and it was absolutely worthless. Is there any chance you might have a leak in your heater core causing increased interior humidity? See if the interior smells like hot radiator coolant.



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Yep I've checked the heater core and it's fine (no smell either). I've heard others complain of similar fogging issues with the Accord as well. I've also tried the Rain X version a few years ago and it was a complete waste of money, hence not trying to do that again if this product is the same.

On a side note (Bence) my Infinti's windshield defroster will not work unless the AC is engaged. Actually, I can set it manually with no AC but it's just not effective unless the AC is on. Just looking for a better alternative to control the fogging. Thanks!
 
Bump for this topic. My accord does the same thing. I tried FogX and it just made things worse. Im tired of keeping the window cracked to keep out the humidity.
 
Civicman86 said:
Bump for this topic. My accord does the same thing. I tried FogX and it just made things worse. Im tired of keeping the window cracked to keep out the humidity.
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Hi Civicman86- nothing like windows down and AC (for the defrost) on in the middle of winter right?? :laugh:

Hopefully someone will chime in whether this is a worthwhile product or not.
 
While I realize AC is usually used for cooling the air, but there should be no problem with having the AC on with the heat at full. You should get warm dry air (once the engine has heated up of course) that will make quick work of the fog.
 
You guys need to get over the use of "A/C" during the winter. The reason that the A/C comes on automatically in your Infiniti (as it does in every car I have had or heard of) is because it's dehumidifying the air, so it won't condense on your cold windshield.



The fogging is because of moisture, and no "anti-fog" product is going to remove the moisture from the air in the car, you can only do that by refrigeration (A/C), ventilation, or heating up the glass to above the dewpoint of the air in the cabin. If it's precipitating outside, the air that is being brought into the cabin to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning is going to be at 100% humidity, so when you put your HVAC controls on "defog/defrost" the air first goes through the A/C evaporator to condense any moisture and then thru the heater core to heat it (back) up. Whether the A/C is actually running has something to do with the outside temp and your particular car's control logic.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
You guys need to get over the use of "A/C" during the winter. The reason that the A/C comes on automatically in your Infiniti (as it does in every car I have had or heard of) is because it's dehumidifying the air, so it won't condense on your cold windshield.



The fogging is because of moisture, and no "anti-fog" product is going to remove the moisture from the air in the car, you can only do that by refrigeration (A/C), ventilation, or heating up the glass to above the dewpoint of the air in the cabin. If it's precipitating outside, the air that is being brought into the cabin to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning is going to be at 100% humidity, so when you put your HVAC controls on "defog/defrost" the air first goes through the A/C evaporator to condense any moisture and then thru the heater core to heat it (back) up. Whether the A/C is actually running has something to do with the outside temp and your particular car's control logic.
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Thanks Setec- your explanation makes perfect sense. The Honda is really bad at fogging up however, much worse than any other car I've owned (could be all of the hot air in the car with me and the kids) ;).

This site said they tested the Fog Clear Gel and it worked very well but I'd rather hear from someone with real world experience versus someone just trying to sell a product as well. It also appears to be identical to the Fog Clear Gel on proper autocare's site that I listed on my first post.

Anti-mists Reviews | Anti Fog | Windscreen Cleaner | Glass Cleaner Anti Fog | Car Mirror Cleaner | AutoExpress
 
Yes, the AC is intended for dehumidifying the air, not only to cool it. That's why the first thing I do especially on a cold winter's day to switch on the AC, recirc, turn the heat to the max, and watch the fog disappear in a few seconds...



Besides, it is good for the entire AC system, as a good circulation conditions the seals, etc.
 
I find that dirty windshields (and windows) fog up much more easily than clean ones. Car interior windows accumulate "vinyl fog" and whatever else is in the gunk (tar if you're a smoker, and just plain dirt, etc.). Anyway, this film can be difficult to remove and sometimes needs more than just scrubbing with glass cleaner.



There are abrasive (or at least creamy liquid type glass cleaners rather than a "windex" type) glass cleaners that may make it easier to remove the film (one that comes to mind is Zaino Z-12 "Formulated with mild abrasives, Z-12 Clear-View Glass Polishâ„¢ deep cleans and polishes all glass surfaces with ease. It quickly removes acid rain spots, hard water spots, road film, stubborn bird stains, and that annoying interior glass film."



I haven't messed with any "anti-fog" coatings since I bought some from the snake oil salesman at the car show when I was 15...I think I still have it somewhere if you want it. Wait...now that I think of it...that stuff was called ROR or something...Residual Oil Remover..which kind of goes to prove my point about the clean glass. (going downstairs to rummage in the cabinets) Yeah, that's it, ROR, made by V-Vax Products, Chicago, IL. The guy had a mirror and a steam vaporizer...
 
Hmm I just got some Sonus glass polish, maybe ill polish it up and clean them really well and see what happens. I know my parents complained about it from day one when they bought the car though. I think its notorious in the accords though (maybe has something to do with HVAC design??).



I just did some research and one guy said to do the following:



Turn circulation type to incoming air (not recirulating air).

Turn fan on full and turn heater thermostat to full hot.

Push button for full defogger mode.

Turn on A/C if it does not come on when you hit the defogger button.

Let windows clear fog.

When fog is gone put fan back on desired speed and change heater temp to desired level.

Take full defogger off and keep it on one that defogs and blows out side vents. Should keep the glass warm enough to keep the fog away.



Im going to try this and keep you updated.
 
Um...that sounds like common sense to me if your windows are fogged, turn the defogger on and turn everything up full until the fog is gone, then turn it off...if the fog comes back, turn it on again. Every car I have had turns the fan on hi when you put it in defog...
 
Well the key to that is to keep the air on the defogger all the time (switch it from the the one that just blows on the windows to the one that blows out of some of the air vents).



I think most people use the defogger then turn it back onto the setting that warms the feet and upper body. Then the windows fog up and you repeat the cycle, which is a major pain in the ***. I'm telling you I have not been in a car that fogs up half as bad as this accord does.
 
Civicman86 said:
Well the key to that is to keep the air on the defogger all the time (switch it from the the one that just blows on the windows to the one that blows out of some of the air vents).



I think most people use the defogger then turn it back onto the setting that warms the feet and upper body. Then the windows fog up and you repeat the cycle, which is a major pain in the ***. I'm telling you I have not been in a car that fogs up half as bad as this accord does.
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Yea Civicman- I've never seen fogging like in my wife's Accord either. I keep the windshield and windows clean yet it still fogs like crazy. I'm hoping someone here on Autopia has used the Fog Clear gel and can report back if it's beneficial or a complete waste of money. What concerns me about the test I read on the internet is they rated the Rain X antifog 2nd best and said it worked very well. Unless it's been reformulated lately, the stuff (RainX antifog) I tried didn't help at all. That was a few years ago however.
 
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Japanese manufacturers have battled cold weather issues for years. Proper cold weather proving grounds are not as easily accessed there as they are in Europe and North America. In the late 70s and early 80s Toyotas and Hondas (among others) had nightmare fogging, heating, and general cold weather failures. For the most part they overcame these issues in the early to mid 90s as manufacturing and testing shifted to other continents. However Honda has lagged a tiny bit in this arena and the fogging is simply a remnant of the late 80s. This is supposed to be completely eliminated in the 2007 and beyond models.



Rain-X anit-fog is useless and can actually leave a nasty film on your glass that is nearly impossible to remove (I had to use a glass polish). I would advise that you avoid the stuff.



Never heard of Fog Clear. I hope it works.



Check these out...

- 500 PSI Dive Mask Anti Fog Solution

- SEA DROPS Anti Fog

- SEA GOLD Gel Anti Fog
 
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