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Daniel3507

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So tomorrow i will be getting my PC and some pads in the mail and then monday i will be getting my m105 and m205 along with more pads and some Pinnacle Liquid Souverän Wax. Im just wanting to make sure my process is going to be correct and any other advice would be great



wash

clay

wash

tape with green tape

prime pads with KBM

m105 on orange pad on speed 5 or 6

m205 with gray pad on speed 3 or 4

and then wax with a gray pad or should i use another pad?
 
Daniel3507 said:
So tomorrow i will be getting my PC and some pads in the mail and then monday i will be getting my m105 and m205 along with more pads and some Pinnacle Liquid Souverän Wax. Im just wanting to make sure my process is going to be correct and any other advice would be great



wash

clay

wash

tape with green tape

prime pads with KBM

m105 on orange pad on speed 5 or 6

m205 with gray pad on speed 3 or 4

and then wax with a gray pad or should i use another pad?
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That system should work fine, best thing to do is a Test Spot to a small section before tackling the entire car.



Make sure you can make one small area look good with your products, process and technique before tackling the entire car.





:)
 
Daniel3507- You might find the jump from M105/orange to M205/gray to be a bit too big, in which case M205 on a polishing pad should bridge the gap just fine (follow up with the M205/gray for a nice final finish).



Also, I use higher speeds with the M205, even with 4" pads.



I'd be very careful to wipe off all the M105 residue, and to do so before it dries. I like to spritz the surface with a bit of #34 before doing this, it seems to help avoid micromarring from the residual M105 abrasives.
 
Not to hijack, but I have a question that doesn't seem to warrant its own thread....



When using 205, does anyone else have trouble leaving a blob of 205 on the paint every time you shut the PC off? After turning the switch off, the machine starts to slow down. As it's slowing down, more and more 205 is left laying on the paint (from the middle of the pad). Before the machine slows down enough to safely lift the pad off the paint without splattering product everywhere, enough 205 is left laying on the paint to really goober up a mf towel.



I don't have this *problem* (not really a problem, more of an annoyance) with the 105 or the any other product. Just the 205.
 
03F250- I can't say that I've had that problem :think:



Maybe you're using too much product. I sometimes think that people are misunderstanding the KBM-style priming and using way too much product; M205 goes a pretty long way.
 
I figured that. Must be "over-priming" the pad. 205 definitely goes further than 105, and any of the few other products I've used for that matter.
 
Accumulator said:
Daniel3507- You might find the jump from M105/orange to M205/gray to be a bit too big, in which case M205 on a polishing pad should bridge the gap just fine (follow up with the M205/gray for a nice final finish).



Also, I use higher speeds with the M205, even with 4" pads.



I'd be very careful to wipe off all the M105 residue, and to do so before it dries. I like to spritz the surface with a bit of #34 before doing this, it seems to help avoid micromarring from the residual M105 abrasives.
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i dont have any #34 so would an IPA wipe down after M105 and then after the M205 suffice?
 
Daniel3507 said:
i dont have any #34 so would an IPA wipe down after M105 and then after the M205 suffice?
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The IPA will help remove the oils but it won't help with the micromarring the way the #34 (with its lubricants) would.



Said micromarring might not even be an issue, and the M205 oughta clear it up (though it might require a somewhat aggressive pad in some cases), so don't worry about it *too* much. But if your local autobody/supply place has some #34 I'd pick up a bottle.
 
Doing a Test Spot with your entire process to one small area will tell you a lot. Check your results after only working on one small area and make sure you can make one small area look GREAT before going over the entire car.



If you run into problems with the results from your test spot then post back here what you're seeing and we'll help you tweak your technique or switch to a different product until you get great results in your test spot.



:)
 
sounds good to me. im pretty excited about this. product will be here monday and will get started that night and then hopefully finish up before work tuesday. i will be sure and do a test spot in the bed of the truck before i tackle the entire thing.;
 
Mike Phillips said:
.. Check your results after only working on one small area and make sure you can make one small area look GREAT before going over the entire car...
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Boy-oh-boy, is *that* great advice :xyxthumbs
 
alright got it washed, clayed, wiped down with IPA and taped it all off. now i just have to wait on UPS to finally deliver my polishes. I hate that UPS doesnt come till the evening.
 
got my stuff in and went out to start polishing to find that the PC i bought from a forum member is probably broken. anytime i would put slight pressure on it the thing would pretty much stop even at higher speeds so i had to barely even touch it to the surface and it would sling everywhere. i tried using it still but then the damn thing got so hot that it was burning my hand and then it actually started to smoke. was i doing it wrong to make it work like that?
 
.....not likely. Sounds like you bought defective polisher. What size pads were you using? By the sound of it, I doubt you were putting enough load on it to make it burn up like that.
 
they were 5.5" pads. i would barely put pressure on it before it would stop. and on a side note, i was surprised at how fast the M105 dries.
 
....yeah, 5.5" is small enough not to cause any severe bogging issues. I use them myself and can exert a decent amount of pressure without the problems you were experiencing.
 
Daniel3507- Lots of heat, let alone smoking :eek: sounds like trouble. Find your local PC service place and get it looked at (or just buy a Flex ;) ).



With the M105, be sure you prime the pad properly/sufficiently, do *NOT* spread it before doing the "work cycle", and work fairly small areas at at time. IMO the priming is very important and makes all the diff in this regard.
 
Daniel3507 said:
how much pressure are you supposed to use? it doesnt seem like i use much at all.
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....personally, I don't use a lot myself. I will usually just let the product/pad do most of the work. However, I might exert a little more pressure on some spots/areas. ....although not to the point that I am bearing down on the machine or bogging it out. I'm not sure how else to describe it. In either case, what happened to you is not normal.
 
there is a service center a mile or two away from me so i will take it into there to see what the hell is wrong with it. i just hope that they take the receipt since it was ordered online. he sent me the order information and printed it out so hopefully that works.
 
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