Finish with 106FF or FPII?

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bumoftheday

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I'm going to be using SIP via DA followed by 106ff. I've heard some people say that FPII jewels up better than 106ff. This will be on a Mazda 3



I will be following with RMG and PS.
 
SuperBee364 said:
yeah, what he said. With one exception: FPII is *phenomenal* on soft paints.
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you know what, I don't think I've ever really compared it. Now I've gotta go looking for a black Porsche.. Wait, I found one! 928 S4 here I come!



Thanks for the mission, Bee. :D I'll report back soon.

Seriusly though, better than 85rd on soft SS?
 
charlesaferg said:
you know what, I don't think I've ever really compared it. Now I've gotta go looking for a black Porsche.. Wait, I found one! 928 S4 here I come!



Thanks for the mission, Bee. :D I'll report back soon.

Seriusly though, better than 85rd on soft SS?
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Yeah. FPII will finish down better than 85rd on just about any paint if you're willing to put in *alot* of time to do it. It takes multiple applications to bring it's full game to the party on hard clears. If you have the time to do it, it's really hard to beat. Don't get me wrong, I love 85rd. It's my favorite jeweling polish. But if you have soft paint or the time to put into it, you just can't beat FPII.
 
I'm not sure how much of the "jeweling" extra benefit will be noticeable with a PC, but for a rotary application, if you use SIP with anything stronger that a polishing pad, I think 85rd will create a nicer look than 106ff.
 
well i have an acura and yesterday i was polishing out my trunk and used 106FF on one side and FPII on the other side both with polishing pads at 1200rpms and the FPII finished nicer. i then went over the 106FF with the FPII and that was ultimate haha
 
SuperBee364 said:
Yeah. FPII will finish down better than 85rd on just about any paint if you're willing to put in *alot* of time to do it. It takes multiple applications to bring it's full game to the party on hard clears. If you have the time to do it, it's really hard to beat. Don't get me wrong, I love 85rd. It's my favorite jeweling polish. But if you have soft paint or the time to put into it, you just can't beat FPII.
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When using 83Q-SIP do you use 106FF-NP or do you you skip over it and replace it with 85RD?

I guess I'm weird in that most of the time I'll go over the finish with both, but I will always use both when using 85U-FP.
 
Most of the time, I use 106 before the 85RD. The real triple-threat is 106 then 85rd then FPII. Charge *alot* for that service. ;)
 
I have grey/black, blue and red ccs pads, is there much of a difference when jeweling the finish with any of these pads?
 
Legacy99 said:
I have grey/black, blue and red ccs pads, is there much of a difference when jeweling the finish with any of these pads?
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They all feel like about the same as far as pores per inch go. The red have more give when you push on them, but other than that they seem like they all pretty much finish down the same to me. :nixweiss
 
maesal said:
Wow SuperBee !! I'll have to buy some FPII !!
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Hope you like it, Maesal. :)



Since I haven't been taking any customer cars lately due to my impending return to my real job, I've been messing around alot with my car and jeweling polishes/pads/techniques. I don't think a coat of wax has lasted more than two days on my car lately. :D



It really is amazing how glossy you can get clear coat when you put in a *ton* of time. And there's soooo many different techniques to it, too.



Techniques and pads aside, though, so far FPII has remained king of the hill through all this. With a huge caveat: it takes a *ton* of time and applications to bring it to it's full potential. PO85RD is next, followed by PO106FF, which is tied with 1Z High Gloss. UF gives a fantastic shine, but multiple applications of it don't really seem to make much difference; one application and it's peaked. Love that stuff, though. Fantastic finish and great time saver.



Well, now that I'm back home from Dallas, there's some wax on my car that really has no business being there.... ;)
 
Well, now that I'm back home from Dallas, there's some wax on my car that really has no business being there....:chuckle:
 
Could you please compare the working time of 85RD, 106FF or FA and FPII?

In my experience, 106FA has the longer working time, then 85RD and then 85RE5. But I haven't tried FPII.
 
I see here the comparison between PO85U (= FPII), PO106FA, PO85RD and PO85RE5. FPII has more cut (3) and less gloss (4) than the others.
 
maesal said:
I see here the comparison between PO85U (= FPII), PO106FA, PO85RD and PO85RE5. FPII has more cut (3) and less gloss (4) than the others.
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Pretty close, Maesal.... PO85U is Final Polish, *not* Final Polish II. Check this link...



Menzerna Polishing Compounds Products, menzerna polishes, menzerna car polish, menzerna nano polish, menzerna final polish, menzerna compound,



and you'll see that PO87MC (listed as Micro Polish, but also known as Final Polish II) is the very least agressive on the Menz chart. It's a 1 abrasive, and 5 gloss.



Menzerna needs to update the chart from your link. It's missing a few polishes on it.
 
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