After moving I had to give up my detailing business for 3+ years but now I am back with a vengeance! While I was gone all of these new coatings came out which I find to be very intriguing. Because of my fantastic results with the rest of their line, I purchased optimum gloss coat. After reading some of peoples thoughts, I am starting to think I should return it for another coating. Fill me in guys! I fell out of the loop.
Finally detailing again! Optimum Gloss Coat or competitor?
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Thomas Dekany
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What have you read that was making you question the product?
House of Wax
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I don't see any reason to not put it on, especially if you already have it
RaysWay
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In the last 3 years we've seen much more cost effective surface coatings hit the market. So as a business owner I can understand looking for the largest margins possible. I'd consider coatings like DP Paint Coating or DG Enviroshield for the average customer. Then save the more expensive coatings like Optimum Gloss-Coat for either higher end details or as an upsell. But coming from someone who has had Gloss-Coat on his car since it was released, I can tell you first hand this stuff is amazing.
For example, a 4 oz bottle of DP Paint Coating will coat ~10 cars for $50. Whereas a single car with Gloss-Coat will cost you $60.
For example, a 4 oz bottle of DP Paint Coating will coat ~10 cars for $50. Whereas a single car with Gloss-Coat will cost you $60.
IHA Mark
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Stick with Gloss-Coat. 10cc is easily enough to coat two vehicles, you can get out 4-5 of a 20cc syringe. It goes a LONG way.
I've used DP Paint Coating, Enviroshield, PBL Surface Coating, Wolf's Hard body, all good stuff... but not even close to professional quality as Gloss-Coat is.
You get what you pay for, and with Gloss-Coat you get a premium product for a premium price.
Of course there is the CQuartz line, but I have never personally used it so will not comment on it. I know a lot of professionals offer either the Optimum or CarPro consumer lines, but usually not much beneath that.
I've used DP Paint Coating, Enviroshield, PBL Surface Coating, Wolf's Hard body, all good stuff... but not even close to professional quality as Gloss-Coat is.
You get what you pay for, and with Gloss-Coat you get a premium product for a premium price.
Of course there is the CQuartz line, but I have never personally used it so will not comment on it. I know a lot of professionals offer either the Optimum or CarPro consumer lines, but usually not much beneath that.
Thomas Dekany
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The only Car pro product that you can compare Gloss Coat with is Finest. And that is a pro product.
Detail Impressions
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CarPro has different products: Cquartz, Cquartz UK all consumer products, they did this technology early. As Optimum had changed direction of their product line. Many changes have become more inline with CarPro, IGL and many more. Coatings are the hot and the marketplace has opened up and the consumer is forcing new products to market everyday to meet the end user consumer demands.
In my eyes all products are advertising "they have the best", older products change to become a new version, and new products offered different features and they to continue to change.
In my eyes all products are advertising "they have the best", older products change to become a new version, and new products offered different features and they to continue to change.
LostHighway
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Optimum Gloss Coat definitely has ease of application going for it. I don't know what changes in chemical composition separate Gloss Coat from Opti-Coat but Opti-Coat has shown significantly better resistance to low pH cleaners than the competition. Assuming that remains true I think that has some real value. Looks are fairly subjective but gloss per se doesn't do all that much for me, I don't really like that gloss shell look on most colors. Some of the newer products like ArtDeSicko or Kamikaze ISM are said to offer a darker, deeper, richer look but I cant speak to this from direct personal experience nor to their other attributes or flaws. There are dozens of coatings out there, far more than most people are aware of, but I don't think choosing Optimum is a mistake.
sealthedeal
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Carpro-us mention the 50ml CQuartzUK to do 4-7 average sized cars. If even its 4 for average sized sedan (can someone confirm?), that also makes it a great value at $70.
The Driver
Detailers Workshop
Why? Would love to hear your thoughts? I always use CQ UK. I love the stuff but what makes opt that much better?
TroyScherer
Ummm.... Ya.....
Can you expand on this more? IMO GlossCoat is still new and un-proven to this point. And since regular CQ, CQUK and other prosumer coatings last 2 years as well they are all on the same level here. So i don't see how the pro level should even be considered here.
Questionable durability and several have said that it added nothing to the look. While I know most of the look comes from prep, I do expect an LSP to add a little something.
Thomas Dekany
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Durability - it could be, it could also be improper prep. Who knows.
Look - if someone said that it didn't add anything to the look? 1 - blind, 2 - works for the competition.
The product is extremely glossy.
_3290467 by Thomas Dekany, on FlickrThomas Dekany
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Unproven - do you mean what if it outlasts the competition? New but similar to OC.
silverfox
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I've never understood the argument that a coating somehow detracts from the "look".. Then I realize that such things are usually associated with legacy wax or sealant users. Waxes and sealants are classically designed to cover sins...as in not having to spend hours prepping the paint. We've seen those junkyard commercials where a guy waxes a hood that's been neglected for 20 years and it looks great after being waxed. Try putting a coating on that same junkyard hood...you get the idea.
A properly prepped surface that's coating ready...will look fabulous even with nothing applied to it. The polishing and chemical cleaning does that. The coating makes it reflect light so that it looks like a mirror, but its the prepping that matters.
In the wax and sealant days, the sins could easily be covered over and over again when needed. With coatings, there's no hiding.
A properly prepped surface that's coating ready...will look fabulous even with nothing applied to it. The polishing and chemical cleaning does that. The coating makes it reflect light so that it looks like a mirror, but its the prepping that matters.
In the wax and sealant days, the sins could easily be covered over and over again when needed. With coatings, there's no hiding.
LostHighway
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I have to correct a mistake in my prior post: "significantly better resistance to low pH cleaners" should have read "significantly better resistance to high pH cleaners." Tests have shown that Opti-Coat stood up far better to alkaline cleaners (pH 12 - 13.5) than the competition. I have not seen similar tests for Gloss Coat yet nor have I attempted to push its limits in my own use. If you look at the pH of many wheel cleaners and APCs you will see that many are quite alkaline so chances of exposure to high pH are not unlikely.
It is not my intention to diss competing products and, as previously noted I am unsure at this point as to what extent Opti-Coat 2.0's virtues extend to Gloss Coat. I can, however, state that Gloss Coat is the easiest to apply coating among those I have used - nearly idiot proof with proper prep work, although the universe has shown a remarkable capacity to build a better idiot when terms like "idiot proof" are tossed around.
TroyScherer
Ummm.... Ya.....
Thomas, how long had GlossCoat been out? Has it been out for its claimed 2 year durability?
Also can you expand on how GlossCoat only compares to Finest and not other consumer grade coatings. 2 years is 2years IMO.