European vs. American waxes

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imported_bigfoot1

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I was looking at the different detailing websites around and noticed a huge price tag difference in prices for waxes. I know there's an issue with the Euro vs. US Dollar, but even when showing dollar prices, it somewhat expensive. What makes the difference between these waxes aside of the cost? Is it durability? Level of depth and shine? What? I'm not trying to bash anything here, just want a comparison.



P.D. Please keep this respectful and avoid product throw downs. Thanks.
 
weekendwarrior said:
Any specific waxes you are looking at? I just ordered Souveran, and this is my first European wax. I am anxious to compare it to some to the ones I have used in the past.
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Well, I was making a comparison between Zymol and Swissvax, since it seems they're the 2 major european waxes know. But if there's more options out there, they can be shout as well. Just want to know...
 
Isn't Souveran made in the U.S.A.? I know the company that owns the Pinnacle brand (PBMA, Inc) is located in Florida. Also, the Zymol offices are located in Connecticut. I believe the factory is also located there.



As far as the question of European products costing more than domestic products, not only is there the exchange rate issue but there is also the cost of transporting the goods from overseas.
 
"Isn't Souveran made in the U.S.A.? I know the company that owns the Pinnacle brand (PBMA, Inc) is located in Florida. Also, the Zymol offices are located in Connecticut. I believe the factory is also located there."





Not sure, I was just assuming.
 
Would like to try some Dodo juice wax from the UK, but the price is a little high for me and then the shipping too................
 
Mikeyc said:
As far as the question of European products costing more than domestic products, not only is there the exchange rate issue but there is also the cost of transporting the goods from overseas.
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And I could not agree more here! But what about the prices for the people in the UK? Example: Swissvax Concorso is around $225.00 sterling pounds or euros(not sure) And they have it around the corner, so of speak. I would swallow it completely if it was around $300.00 USD, which I think is the current exchange, but why does it cost the same for them and for us?



And another thing is: is there any quality difference from european vs. american made waxes?
 
Hi Guys



Approx:



£1 (Pounds-Sterling British Money) = $2 USD

€1 (EURO, EUR, EUROPEAN MONEY) - $1.42 USD



Great for British people shopping in the USA like me :woot: Love to buy houses in FL!!



Anyway, im sure the Pinnicle range is from the USA. I believe some British and Euro Zone LSPs are:



AutoGlym (SRP, UDS, EGP, Aqua Wax)

DODO Juice

SONAX

Menzerna (FMJ)

S100

P21s

Klasses

Carlack



Geoff
 
zoomzoom mazda5 said:
Would like to try some Dodo juice wax from the UK, but the price is a little high for me and then the shipping too................
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As i reviews in previous posts i tried 2 of the DODO juices and they are fair enough products. But i wouldent say they are worth (really double the price) they are going to cost you in the USA. Plenty of other nice products for less cash that will do the same job.



The real problem with UK is that things are expensive to export, so we dont!! Well except high quality (hehe) at high prices. Someone has to bank and insure!!



Geoff
 
maybe someone should start a thread stating where certain brands/products are made. to be honest that is a deciding factor on what i buy. if i see a made in usa on the bottle i'm much more interested than if it didn't. i cringe when i see made in china.:grrr



:usa
 
I honestly dont think the price is really based on anything other than economic factors. I can buy the same products in the US or UK and the price is usually simply the same with a different £ or $ in front of it. Eg Zaino Z2 $14.95 from the Zaino store and £14.95 in the UK, Zymol Glasur $101 or £95....so MOST things are simply twice the price over here. Things like Megs pads etc are all generally affected in the same way.



Some European made waxes eg Swissvax seem to keep the same 'real' cost and the US prices are simply based on whatever the exchange rate makes them eg £UK x2. I guess Dodo is the same as its made in the UK. This means in their 'home' markets they compete at the same price point as the likes of Zymol (in the case of Swissvax) so you would assume similar quality etc but in the US they become twice the price and its a very different value equation...



It's one reason i love my regular trips to the US with my big luggage....
 
Besides the exchange rate, IMO they have a totally different set of consumers than we do here in the States, especially in the U.K. It's the same reason why there are people that would pay Paul Dalton the prices he charge. There are detailers here in North America that are just as good, if not better than him, but it's pretty safe to say none are making the money he does. If we had enough demand for expensive waxes, we'd probably have plenty of choices to pick from like in the U.K. But most of us still consider Zaino's prices to be a bit on the high side, so I don't see expensive waxes taking off here in the States any time soon. Souveran is probably the limit that most people here are willing to spend. Just my $.02
 
steelwind101 said:
Anyway, im sure the Pinnicle range is from the USA. I believe some British and Euro Zone LSPs are:



AutoGlym (SRP, UDS, EGP, Aqua Wax)

DODO Juice

SONAX

Menzerna (FMJ)

S100

P21s

Klasses

Carlack



Geoff
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Nope! Menzerna FMJ is made in the USA. It's a product of Menzerna USA much like the wheel cleaner and car wash soap. You won't find those products listed anywhere on the German Menzerna web page.
 
Mikeyc said:
Nope! Menzerna FMJ is made in the USA. It's a product of Menzerna USA much like the wheel cleaner and car wash soap. You won't find those products listed anywhere on the German Menzerna web page.
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HAHA!! Good to know!! I havent tried those yet, i just assumed they were all part of the same club. Do Menzerna have a USA division!? Where is that new QD from??



Einszett / 1z is German or USA pretending to be German??



Geoff
 
steelwind101 said:
HAHA!! Good to know!! I havent tried those yet, i just assumed they were all part of the same club. Do Menzerna have a USA division!? Where is that new QD from??



Einszett / 1z is German or USA pretending to be German??



Geoff
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I believe 1Z is German and the new Menzerna QD (Top Inspection?) is from Germany as well AFAIK.



A lot of the Menzerna products sold in the USA are from Germany (PO106FF, P085RD, etc.) or are repackaged versions of German products (Final Polish II, Intensive Polish, etc.). However, there are a few products like the car wash soap, FMJ, and the wheel cleaner which are made by Menzerna USA.
 
DODO Juice sounds a bit of an awkward name for a high end wax. Here is the definition of dodo according to Webster:



1 a: an extinct heavy flightless bird (Raphus cucullatus syn. Didus ineptus of the family Raphidae) of the island of Mauritius that was larger than a turkey and was related to the pigeon b: an extinct flightless bird (Raphus solitarius) of the island of Réunion similar to and closely related to the dodo



2 a: one hopelessly behind the times b: a stupid person



And when you add the Juice part, it makes me think of Pimp Juice. It's almost as ghetto as naming it PimpMyRide Wax
 
BlackElantraGT said:
DODO Juice sounds a bit of an awkward name for a high end wax. Here is the definition of dodo according to Webster:



1 a: an extinct heavy flightless bird (Raphus cucullatus syn. Didus ineptus of the family Raphidae) of the island of Mauritius that was larger than a turkey and was related to the pigeon b: an extinct flightless bird (Raphus solitarius) of the island of Réunion similar to and closely related to the dodo



2 a: one hopelessly behind the times b: a stupid person



And when you add the Juice part, it makes me think of Pimp Juice. It's almost as ghetto as naming it PimpMyRide Wax
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I agree!! When it first came out that what i thought, if you wanted to sell a premium UK product then you need to give a name worthy of that market title.



DODO is also kiddy talk "sh*t" in the UK, so what they were doing i will never know. Unless its an acronym for something they havent explained!!



Geoff
 
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