DuraGloss & Zaino

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They share more similarities than differences ... example, DG601-PBA / zfx ... from someone else who noticed also:
has anyone else noticed these similarities in Duragloss and Zaino?

1) Zaino "BROTHERS" duragloss = "BROTHER's" research corp.

2) the use of the word polish vs. wax sealant etc.

3) the use of a pre-polish (eg z1 and prepolishing agent)

4) the fact that (or claim thereof) that the corresponding qd's z6 and fast clean n' shine bond to their respective polishes

5) the smells of the products (the sprays)

6) excellent durability
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another plus is DG is OTC or only $4.95 Shipping vs. $8.95 for zaino
 
Uh oh, you have started something now. :chuckle:



I have noticed alot of this. When I put #105 and #915 on my truck and used FC&S, it looked identical to zaino. Just cheaper.
 
You also forgot they both suggest using 100% cotton towels.

:grinno:



Just thought I would add some fuel to the fire.... :bolt
 
I'm a firm believer in the cotton towels and I'm not on the MF band wagon. They both work great but it's hard to find REAL cotton towels today . No one can prove to me that MF is better than a thick cotton towel or that cotton leaves anymore scratches than MF.

As for Zano being the same as Duragloss I think I'm going to duck as the sparks fly. Just had someone get mad at me on another site because they thought I was putting down Zano. I'm staying out of this one, Lol. Mike
 
they seem to function similarly chemically, and seem to share SOME common ingredients(aliphatic hydrocarbons). If 105 is similar to Z2pro it's a steal at $10. Zaino does have Z5pro which has a different look and doesn't seem to have a Duragloss counterpart. I can accept that Sal probably makes Z2pro and Z5pro to his own specs, as to wether he actually owns the manufacturing plant or has it blended by someone else I don't know. I have my doubts that Sal actually invented every Z product. Some of the Z accessory products might be tweaked versions of another companies line with some small product tweaks-or maybe not. It would be interesting to see more comparisons between the 2 lines. IMO Zaino is a very good product line with a loyal following and great marketing but Duragloss is the best product line/value at the OTC level.



BTW-Duragloss isn't a new company they've been around since 1977-roughly the same time Zaino was born.
 
wannafbody said:
they seem to function similarly chemically, and seem to share SOME common ingredients(aliphatic hydrocarbons). If 105 is similar to Z2pro it's a steal at $10. Zaino does have Z5pro which has a different look and doesn't seem to have a Duragloss counterpart. .
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Isnt Z5 like Duragloss 671?
 
Doing a little investigative digging using WHOIS.



WHOIS is used to find the owner of websites. So, let's compare DURAGLOSS.COM versus ZAINOSTORE.COM.



I see nothing similiar except that both use NETWORK SOLUTIONS as thier Current Registrar -- and this is no big deal because there are only very few registrars, and NETWORK SOLUTIONS is one of the few "big names" besides GO DADDY.

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ZAINOSTORE.COM

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Registrant:

Zaino, Sal



ATTN: ZAINOSTORE.COM

c/o Network Solutions

P.O. Box 447

Herndon, VA 20172-0447



Domain Name: ZAINOSTORE.COM



Administrative Contact :

Zaino, Sal

jf4ck4ts7x2@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com

ATTN: ZAINOSTORE.COM

c/o Network Solutions

P.O. Box 447

Herndon, VA 20172-0447

Phone: 570-708-8780



Technical Contact :

Zaino, Sal

jf4ck4ts7x2@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com

ATTN: ZAINOSTORE.COM

c/o Network Solutions

P.O. Box 447

Herndon, VA 20172-0447

Phone: 570-708-8780



Record expires on 18-Mar-2013

Record created on 07-Nov-2003

Database last updated on 15-Feb-2005



Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS



NS3.HOSTASAURUS.COM 66.129.98.6

NS1.HOSTASAURUS.COM 207.44.208.37



This listing is a Network Solutions Private Registration. Mail correspondence to this address must be sent via USPS Express Mail™ or USPS Certified Mail®; all other mail will not be processed. Be sure to include the registrant's domain name in the address.



Show underlying registry data for this record





Current Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.

IP Address: 204.10.66.115 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)

IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-FLORIDA-TAMPA

Record Type: Domain Name

Server Type: Apache

Lock Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

Web Site Status: Active

DMOZ no listings

Y! Directory: see listings

Secure: No

E-commerce: Yes

Traffic Ranking: 2

Data as of: 23-Jan-2006

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DURAGLOSS.COM

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Registrant:

Brothers Research

2245 East Airpark Drive

Burlington, NC 27215

US



Domain Name: DURAGLOSS.COM



Administrative Contact , Technical Contact :

Bailey, William

bbailey@DURAGLOSS.COM

PO Box 317

Burlington, NC 27215

US

Phone: 336-229-6480

Fax: 336-229-1303



Record expires on 04-Jun-2008

Record created on 05-Jun-1996

Database last updated on 23-Jun-2006



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NS2.RACKSPACE.COM 65.61.188.4

NS.RACKSPACE.COM 69.20.95.4



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Current Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.

IP Address: 69.20.103.163 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)

IP Location: US(UNITED STATES)-NORTH CAROLINA-BURLINGTON

Record Type: Domain Name

Server Type: IIS 6

Lock Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

Web Site Status: Active

DMOZ no listings

Y! Directory: see listings

Web Site Title: Duragloss Car Care Products

Secure: Yes

E-commerce: Yes

Traffic Ranking: 5

Data as of: 11-Aug-2005
 
I'm not saying they are the same exact products but if people who've used both lines claim that some of the products seem very similar doesn't that make anyone curious?

As for 671-I've never used it so I can't comment.



Correction: Sal posted over at detailers club that ZFX DOES NOT contain aliphatic hydrocarbons- so it would seem as if DG601 and ZFX are not the same chemically.
 
you mean to say ..after all the years the ZFX has been out he never knew it was listed on the box..especialy as a caution..required by law....



AL
 
Mike-in-WV:



Which USA cotton towels are you using today since Canon (Charisma) went out of business in the US a few years ago?
 
wannafbody said:
I'm not saying they are the same exact products but if people who've used both lines claim that some of the products seem very similar doesn't that make anyone curious?



Correction: Sal posted over at detailers club that ZFX DOES NOT contain aliphatic hydrocarbons- so it would seem as if DG601 and ZFX are not the same chemically.
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Maybe ... maybe NOT! :sadwavey: Perhaps somebody should inform Sal what really is in His "very unique and one of a kind" products, he seems to be at a loss ... http://www.detailersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2654&page=2
 
Regardless of the speculation, they are both great product lines and assets to the detailing community. I will say that after years of using both Z and DG, the lines are so similar that I would have trouble telling them apart if blindfolded (whether by smell or performance or both).



I do remember a conversation with Sal long ago, in which he stated to me that he and the DG guys had worked together on formulas (many years ago), but then I think he said his final product was a little different from what the DG guys wanted. After all, I didn't expect him to fully admit to me (or anyone else) that they are very identical.



In my opinion and just speculating, I would bet the DG formulas (101/111 only) have changed little over the years, whereas I think Sal wanted to keep tweaking the formulas to his liking and to separate his "brand image." I think this accounts for any difference in the polishes, but the similarities between other products is nearly dead on.
 
good info TigerMike. I agree that as long as they both are great, all the better for us.



p.s. I am enjoying the DG line (but still waiting for my 105 :drool: ).
 
I will say that after years of using both Z and DG, the lines are so similar that I would have trouble telling them apart if blindfolded (whether by smell or performance or both).
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While I like DG a lot, Zaino is a far better product line imho. More products, better overall sealant.
 
I guess one could speculate that Zaino is similiar to DG as one would say Meg #26 is similiar to Pinnacle Souveran. Both are carnuaba formulation, contain many of the same ingredients, poor protection longevity and present a wet carnuaba appearance.

Same product geneology?

Really makes Meg's #26 appear to be a great bargain @ $15 dollars and OTC. :nixweiss





Of course this speculation is foolish and the Zaino/DG " exact same product" speculation has been around as long as this site have existed and never progressed to more than a detailing myth. :wall



Always a humorous discussion worth a few good laughs. :lol
 
I don't think the dual manufacturing idea makes any sense. Duragloss is a small operation in North Carolina and Sal is so independent and makes his own stuff.
 
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