Duragloss Rinseless Wash with Aquawax

MiVor

MiVor

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My gallon of DG Rinseless with Aquawax arrived the other day. So I did a rinseless wash yesterday. Now bear in mind that I've been using ONR for a few years and was happy with it, but I've become a bit of a die hard DG fan so I felt I had to try their product. I got a little bit from my benefactor ( A fellow forum member jumping the DG ship [a foolish 'boy' <hehe>] ) and I liked it so I ordered a gallon.
This stuff just seems so much slicker than ONR as my wet WW towel glided over the surface like it was on a cushion of air. The result was a really nice clean & shine.
I LIKE IT.
 
For me, ONR is the beat pure cleaner, and if you want something that leaves nothing it is great to top with wax. If i want just a quick wash and dont want an additional step, i reach for UWW or WG uber. May have to try this stuff someday.
 
I use both the ONR and the DG regularly. I agree that the ONR may be a bit more aggressive cleaner, but the DG leaves a slicker finish, even more so than the ONRWW IMO, and the DG is more tolerant of temperature variations, with less streaking on my black DD. I also keep D114 around if I'm doing polishing afterwards, since it's a more aggressive cleaner than either the ONR or DG, again IMO.

Bill
 
ONR is my go-to for rinseless. Just about ran out, so picked up some ONR Wax version, and recently, the Blackfire Rinseless. BF seems to leave something behind, and is also pretty slick. I dig it. I will get more regular ONR, though, as I like that it seems to keep it "pure" and also use it as clay lube.

Still need to try ONR Wax, and Wolf's Mean Green. (Both sitting at home).

Thanks for the post, MiVor. I *do* like the DG car wash soap so maybe I'll try their rinseless some day.
 
Billy Jack said:
I use both the ONR and the DG regularly. I agree that the ONR may be a bit more aggressive cleaner, but the DG leaves a slicker finish, even more so than the ONRWW IMO, and the DG is more tolerant of temperature variations, with less streaking on my black DD. I also keep D114 around if I'm doing polishing afterwards, since it's a more aggressive cleaner than either the ONR or DG, again IMO.

Bill
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M114 is more aggressive because the recommended % is twice as much as ONR.
 
JBM said:
M114 is more aggressive because the recommended % is twice as much as ONR.
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Ummmm....curious as to how you came to this conclusion....

So any type of cleaner that has a higher dilution rate means it's stronger?

Kind of comparing apples to oranges aren't you?

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yg1829 said:
Ummmm....curious as to how you came to this conclusion....

So any type of cleaner that has a higher dilution rate means it's stronger?

Kind of comparing apples to oranges aren't you?

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How I came to what conclusion? Its on the label.
 
JBM said:
How is it better?
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How do you know it's more aggressive because the recommend % is twice as much?

It says it's more aggressive than onr on the label?

Sorry I quoted the wrong post.

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yg1829 said:
How do you know it's more aggressive because the recommend % is twice as much?

It says it's more aggressive than onr on the label?

Sorry I quoted the wrong post.

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Well if the claim is that it cleans better at 1 oz per gallon but onr uses 1/2 oz per gallon then the test should be done with equal parts for both product to make an evaluation, dont ya think?

It says to use twice as much product on the label, and considering that, its twice as much money as onr. I realize there is a 1:256 dilution ratio people use it at, and at that number it doesnt clean any better for me.

Ive used both, have you?
 
JBM said:
Well if the claim is that it cleans better at 1 oz per gallon but onr uses 1/2 oz per gallon then the test should be done with equal parts for both product to make an evaluation, dont ya think?

It says to use twice as much product on the label, and considering that, its twice as much money as onr. I realize there is a 1:256 dilution ratio people use it at, and at that number it doesnt clean any better for me.

Ive used both, have you?
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I know but here is what I'm getting at...and I'm sorry I'm not trying to be a jerk.

Lets use this analogy....

Let's say billy likes dunkin doughnuts dark roast coffee and he tells Johnny who like Starbucks dark roast coffee that dunkin is stronger because they use a couple more scoops....

How does billy know that...maybe the coffee bean Starbucks uses has more caffeine in it so they don't need as many scoops to be as strong.

The chemicals used to clean in ONR may be more concentrated than D114 there for you don't need as much to accomplish the same task.

I don't know this for sure...do you?

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JBM said:
M114 is more aggressive because the recommended % is twice as much as ONR.
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Actually, that's not always true.
Quote from Michael Stoops on MOL:
[h=2]Re: Rinse Free Express Wash[/h]
"For a typical bucket wash our directions are for 1 ounce of RFEW to 2 gallons of water, or 1 ounce of RFEW to 1 gallon of water for a dirtier car.

RFEW has pretty stout cleaning ability so there's no need to go to a really heavy dilution ratio with it. And if you've used it in a bucket wash you know it's incredibly slick in solution".
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I've used it at both dilutions and my assessment of aggressiveness is based on the cleaning ability for things like wheels, tires and jambs. Not to mention that either DG or ONR still feels slippery when used over a car that had been recently washed with a spray wax as a drying aid, but D114 leaves more of a "squeeky clean" feeling. Again IMO,IMO,IMO.


Bill
 
yg1829 said:
I know but here is what I'm getting at...and I'm sorry I'm not trying to be a jerk.

Lets use this analogy....

Let's say billy likes dunkin doughnuts dark roast coffee and he tells Johnny who like Starbucks dark roast coffee that dunkin is stronger because they use a couple more scoops....

How does billy know that...maybe the coffee bean Starbucks uses has more caffeine in it so they don't need as many scoops to be as strong.

The chemicals used to clean in ONR may be more concentrated than D114 there for you don't need as much to accomplish the same task.

I don't know this for sure...do you?

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I dont know what your trying to argue, like 2 packets of splenda is sweeter then 1 packet of sweet and low? but the sweetness of splenda isnt stronger then sweet and low?
 
JBM said:
M114 is more aggressive because the recommended % is twice as much as ONR.
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I just don't believe this^^^^ statement is true.

I don't believe a products aggressiveness compared to another product can be determined by its dilution.

Product "A" may be more concentrated than product "B" there for requiring less product to dilute.

Does that make sense?

I don't know how else to explain it.

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If you had said that D114 is a more aggressive cleaner than ONR than fine.

But....the "because the recommended % is twice as much as ONR" is the part I disagree with. That's just not always true.

Anyways....this is my last post for this thread. I apologize for any disturbance and I apologize to you JBM. I was just trying to make a point not an argument.
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"Tastes great....less filling"!!!

I might point out that I don't do a conventional rinseless wash by putting 1 oz (or more) per gallon of water in a bucket. Instead I put 4-5oz in a spray bottle and fill with warm water. I fill my bucket with hot water from the sink with no product. I wet my waffle weave towel in the clean water and wring out. Working top down, I spray, wipe with the wet WW towel and dry with an MF towel. I'll spray lightly in cleaner areas and more in dirty areas. I fold and turn the WW towel as needed and when it's time is up I switch to another. I usually do my Silverado truck (which includes the tonaeu cover) usually with about 3 WW towels. It works really well and I'm not re-introducing dirt by rinsing in a dirty bucket.

Sorry for any ONR die hards....ONR gets a thumbs up in my book, but DG gets two thumbs up.
 
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