Does NXT Paste Wax contain fillers?

Mochamanz1

Sun Blinded Detailer
I just found some NXT Paste wax in a retail store and tried it on a panel, the panel looks a bit smoother, small spider web "remnants" looked greatly diminished.(deeper scratches I didnt want to waste clearcoat removing) I am just wondering if the NXT Paste filled them somewhat. (old daily driver)
 
I think it does have some filling properties and with a PC and a polishing pad, it can remove very light defects but that is due more to the pad than the product.
 
Scottwax said:
I think it does have some filling properties and with a PC and a polishing pad, it can remove very light defects but that is due more to the pad than the product.



So swirls can be lessened if I applied NXT with a polishing pad instead of a finishing pad? I applied NXT before, but the swirls are still very visible.:(
 
Yes, most definately. Use a polishing pad and speed 4 on the PC. Work NXT in like a polish before letting it dry to a haze. it WILL remove swirls.
 
GoodnClean said:
Yes, most definately. Use a polishing pad and speed 4 on the PC. Work NXT in like a polish before letting it dry to a haze. it WILL remove swirls.



Sure beats having to polish before waxing! Looks like I'll have a use for NXT after all!

Actually, you've told this to me before, but it's always reassuring to have a concurring second opinion.:)
 
termigator said:
So swirls can be lessened if I applied NXT with a polishing pad instead of a finishing pad? I applied NXT before, but the swirls are still very visible.:(



They should be lessened but I wouldn't rely on NXT as a swirl remover either. Use a dedicated swirl remover first, then NXT with a polishing pad and any very light swirls should be removed and/or filled.
 
I have seen swirls greatly diminished by applying #7/NXT liquid by hand.

I assumed both of these products had fillers, which gave the swirls a filling one-two punch.
 
Just to note...



The nature of a good wax is to coat over and to some degree fill in and create a more smooth finish for increased gloss and clarity.



So a good wax is at least to some degree a filler no matter whose brand you're using.



Mike
 
Good point, Mike. I've noticed FK's Pink Wax has some filling capability.



BTW, I've begun to hoard #16, does that mean I am OCD? ;)
 
Scottwax said:
Good point, Mike. I've noticed FK's Pink Wax has some filling capability.



How do you get past the strong odor from that product? Whew! too strong for me...



BTW, I've begun to hoard #16, does that mean I am OCD? ;)



You were already there! :D



I have a few cans tucked away also ;)



When it comes to fillers and filling, any product that you apply to the surface and this product leaves some of itself behind is technically filling.



I read all the time about people discussing fillers and recently I tested a fairly abrasive compound, (not ours), and it left the finish of our black Pilot swirled and scoured. I then removed the swirls and scouring with M83/W-8006/PC followed by M80/W-8006/PC and then afterwards washed the finish three times with a strong solution of a popular detergent dish soap. I then wiped the finish down with All Purpose Cleaner, followed by an alcohol glass cleaner and then rewashed with the detergent dish washing solution to do my very best to insure that if there was any filling taking place, that the ingredients doing the filling would be removed and reveal the true condition of the finish.



I have about a half a dozen photos taken with my Sony FD97 2.1 mega pixel camera which is very good at capturing swirls, (better than my Cannon Digital Rebel at 6.3 mega pixels).



Anyway, here's one shot as best as I could get the sun to reflect off the hood while I stood on a ladder and shot down on it.



The below photo is cropped at 600 by 600 pixels out of the original and untouched in any other way.



2NoFillers1cropped.jpg




The finish was virtually flawless in direct sunlight and out of the sun it looked like I had just waxed it. This is after multiple detergent washing and chemical stripping. I will say I purposefully did my very best at removing the swirls with the M83 and then bringing the finish up to its max potential with the M80 as the goal was to remove the swirls completely.



There were some very light swirls here and there, but they could have been instilled during the washing or chemical stripping although I used both wool wash mitts and microfiber wash mitts for this and both of these were in new/excellent condition.



I was impressed.



FWIW



Mike
 
Mike-Pink Wax doesn't smell great but it does have a nice wet shine.



Nice shot on that black paint!



I had started a detail on a neighbor's Regal in early January and all I got done was #83 and #80 and then since rain was coming, and she was out of town until late January, I figured I'd glaze and seal it right before she got back. 9 days of exposure to the elements, including mud rain (lots of west Texas dust mixed in with the rain) and a wash afterward and the paint still looked terrific and swirl free. I was quite pleased to see that.



Too bad 3-4 days after she got back her cat jumped up on the hood and scratched it up.
 
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