Does Carnauba MW contain vanilla fragrance?
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Is that one of those little 4 oz samples? Neither my bottle of CMW or the 'Just Wax' warped or softened at all. No scent that I can determine.
I've got 2 bottles of the production version of CMW, so I will keep an eye on them, but neither Blue Moose, Moose Wax or the new unscented version of Vanilla Moose bottles I have have warped, weakened or softened.
I've got 2 bottles of the production version of CMW, so I will keep an eye on them, but neither Blue Moose, Moose Wax or the new unscented version of Vanilla Moose bottles I have have warped, weakened or softened.
Well, if it does not contain any vanilla "fragrance" something else is happening here.
Only 2 things I can think of that would cause warping.
1. Solvent content, or solvent type, in the proudct is either wrong or too high.
2. The bottles are just low grade plastic and are very fragile.
Only 2 things I can think of that would cause warping.
1. Solvent content, or solvent type, in the proudct is either wrong or too high.
2. The bottles are just low grade plastic and are very fragile.
I do know that the make-up of the sample bottles is not the same as the production bottles which seem to have a harder and clear type plastic. I went through my sample too fast for there to be any problems.
The "Just Wax" is pretty much Moose Wax with no chemical cleaners. Nice shine and you can use it on black paint in the direct sun.
The "Just Wax" is pretty much Moose Wax with no chemical cleaners. Nice shine and you can use it on black paint in the direct sun.
bjwebster said:
I'm asuming it is the same as Moose Wax and Vanilla Moose, since it also has a petroleum base, but instead of chemical cleaners or light abrasives, it has carnuba added. In what percentages, I don't know, and I don't know what else was added, but the bottles feel heavy for their size.
My guess is that the sample bottle is a lower grade plastic than the production bottles, because I've had no problems with them.
Beason said:
www.clearkote.net
Everett no longer owns the .com site (long story, I guess) and it hasn't been updated in 3 years, so just use the .net version of his site.
Beason said:
The Vanilla Moose/Carnuba Moose Wax combo is real nice. The regular Moose Wax seems to look it's best by itself.
The Carnuba Moose will be on the website soon, apparently the pics that were taken of the new products were too dark, so new ones are being taken and sent to the webmaster this weekend.
Scottwax said:
To my junior-Autopian brain, this "petroleum base" comment makes me go :scared I think I've learned that most carnaubas have to have some petroleum to keep them in suspension, but is a petroleum base "normal" among carnauba waxes? And if it has a petroleum base, doesn't that mean it would clean off any filling properties that VM glaze provided? :nixweiss I'm confused.
Lynn said:
It doesn't seem to remove any filling properties of Vanilla Moose, and in fact, enhances the look. I've also use Carnuba Moose over Final Polish and Winner's Choice Polymer Finishing Creme with no problems.
I guess it would depend on what the specific petroleum ingredients are as to whether they would remove any glazes or polymers applied prior to using it.
Obviously, Everett is pretty tight lipped about the actual ingredients of his products, but I've been using them for over a year now (beginning with Quikshine and Moose Wax) and have had no problems with either my car (always my first test) or any of my customers cars.
Scottwax said:
Interesting, Scott. I did my Sharpie permanent marker test again, and Carnauba Moose Wax wiped the ink right off. I also used BF II, Zaino, and P21S as my control, and those three barely dented the permanent ink. I'm sorry to say, but CMW should remove Final Polish and Polymer Finishing Creme if it can dissolve permanent ink.
I asked Everett if CMW was a cleaner wax or not. His response:
I have been looking forward to trying Carnauba Moose Wax and hoped for a P21S beater. But so far it doesn't look too hopeful.
Maybe next time, ClearKote!
Interesting thread...Lynn said:
Yes, as far as I know, it is impossible to have a "regular" wax product that doesn't use petroleum distillates to dissolve the wax and make it usable. Even some sealants like Klasse seem to have to have them. This kinda makes sense in an amatuer chemistry perspective since car wax/sealant is water repellent (hydrophobic/non-polar
) stuff.This may relate to BW's finding on his CD test. The solvents used in liquid wax are lighter/runnier, and thus more effective solvents, than the solvents used in paste waxes. This has been discussed at some point in the past when someone brought this up in relation to topping sealants. From that discussion I decided it was probably "safer" to only top with pastes, not liquids, even though nothing was really proven. IMHO a better control to compare CMW to for the CD marker test would be something like Meguiar's #26 liquid Hi-tech yellow. I have some of that (thanks Intermezzo!) and was surprised to find the solvents strong enough to pull colour off a toolbox just as well as other liquid cleaner waxes....
Just food for thought.... it could be a case of apples and oranges here!
I find that interesting also. I've only used pastes in the past to layer on top of polymers, never really gave the additional carriers you need in a liquid wax much thought.
I've got some #26 liquid. I'll have to try it out, although I do know that #26 will remove light tar on it's own.
I've got some #26 liquid. I'll have to try it out, although I do know that #26 will remove light tar on it's own.