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Do I need to clay before I use KAIO?
- Thread starter BradUF
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Cleaning Fool
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No, KAIO will not remove the contaminates that a claybar will
imported_smprince1
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BradUF said:Won't KAIO remove everything that a claybar would have removed?
Not usually in my experience.
It's up to you but when I'm doing a full detail I just about always clay. It will "pull out" embedded contaminants in / on your paint like brake dust, rail dust, industrial fallout, tree sap, tar, overspray, etc. and really make the paint smooth.
Some would disagree with even skipping clay on this ... but I sometimes skip claying if I'm going to be doing deep correction (e.g. rotary/wool/compound) as I find this will usually remove what the clay would. But KAIO is pretty mild, having only chemical cleaners and no abbrasives.
That being said, I typically only clay my personal vehicles twice per year.
imported_smprince1
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Hey BradUF .... only you can tell if the car should be clayed since we don't know it's history nor do we have access to the car to inspect. We can't make that decision for you. :nixweiss
Your question was whether claying and KAIO were redundant, and IMO, they are not but in fact accomplish different objectives.
Your question was whether claying and KAIO were redundant, and IMO, they are not but in fact accomplish different objectives.
baggie test anyone?
telling you that you need to clay or not is only a guess
and has little to do with how well it is maintained or how long ago you clayed
put your hand in a cheap(the thinner the better) zipper top type bag
and LIGHTLY drag your fingers over the paint
if you feal "grit" you need to clay
EDIT: some good basic clay info here:http://autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/80231-detailing-clay-pre-wax-cleaning.html
telling you that you need to clay or not is only a guess
and has little to do with how well it is maintained or how long ago you clayed
put your hand in a cheap(the thinner the better) zipper top type bag
and LIGHTLY drag your fingers over the paint
if you feal "grit" you need to clay
EDIT: some good basic clay info here:http://autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/80231-detailing-clay-pre-wax-cleaning.html
wfedwar said:What's the point in the bag anyway?
it will give you a more amplified feeling of touch and help you feel them better
wfedwar said:Can't you just feel the paint with your bare finger? That's what I've always done, anyway.
yes