Di I need a pre-cleaner before Collinite 845?
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SuperBee364
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No, you sure don't. To make sure you get rid of all the polish residue, wipe the car down with 50/50 Isopropyl Alcohol/water from a spray bottle. Just spray it and wipe it down with a clean MF.
If you still have some defects/swirls in the paint, you could use a "pre-cleaner" A.K.A. "Glaze" like Red Moose Machine Glaze, Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze, P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser, or Swissvax Cleaner Fluid. Any of these filling-type glazes will help hide any remaining defects/swirls, as well as give your paint a very nice gloss. Some people say that they will adversely effect the durability of whatever LSP you put on top (in your case Collinite), but others say they don't effect durability.
If you're looking for nice long durability, you'd probably be better off not using a glaze after your IPA wipedown. Just go straight to the Collinite.
If you still have some defects/swirls in the paint, you could use a "pre-cleaner" A.K.A. "Glaze" like Red Moose Machine Glaze, Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze, P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser, or Swissvax Cleaner Fluid. Any of these filling-type glazes will help hide any remaining defects/swirls, as well as give your paint a very nice gloss. Some people say that they will adversely effect the durability of whatever LSP you put on top (in your case Collinite), but others say they don't effect durability.
If you're looking for nice long durability, you'd probably be better off not using a glaze after your IPA wipedown. Just go straight to the Collinite.
Accumulator
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SuperBee364 said:
Correct. 845 works great on top of the waxes/etc. that 1Z leaves behind. SuperBee364 and I are in our usual state of complete agreement here..
SuperBee364 said:
But here we *finally* get to disagree about something :nana: :chuckle:
I would never strip off the stuff the 1Z leaves behind with IPA/etc. I say "Leave it on there!" The "polish residue" in this case is a decent carnauba/synthetic wax mix that does a fair bit of concealing (just like a glaze). No problems at all IME putting 845 over top of it (and I do it pretty often).
Just work the 1Z sufficiently so it breaks down. You can often *over*work it to the point of it going dry/dusting without any problems (not that I'd try that on a black car). Buff off the residue (and curse all the dust..just a fair warning
), then put the 845 on.
SuperBee364
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Ah, good point Accumulator. I'm so used to having to do a 50/50 wipe after using Menz polishes... I should get out of the habbit of making that a blanket statement. 
Or at least pay attention to what product they're using before LSP.
Or at least pay attention to what product they're using before LSP.Accumulator
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SuperBee364 said:Ah, good point Accumulator. I'm so used to having to do a 50/50 wipe after using Menz polishes... I should get out of the habbit of making that a blanket statement.
Or just stick with 1Z stuff
Heh heh, sorry, couldn't resist!BTW, I hear that maybe you oughta be using PrepSol instead of just IPA for the Menzerna wipe-downs. The mystery-hologram-filling of 106 gives me the willies.
(I've seen it *first-hand*.. never gave it a moment's thought until then, despite all the :argue about it. As I don't use 106 I didn't have a dog in that fight, so IMO I'm a properly dispassionate observer on the topic.)
SuperBee364
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Good thought. There's an auto-body supply store just down the street from me. Think I'll go pick up a gallon of PrepSol today.
imported_Chris223
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I tried collinite on my moms Chevy Suburbans hood the other day after I washed it, I hand polish the hood with some Mothers Cleaner Wax, then Sonus SFX-3, and then some Collinite 845 just to test it out. I was impressed by how easily it spread. Just a tiny drop on my applicator pad did the whole hood with ease. Other products I have trouble with over-using product because it SAYS to use "a quarter sized amount for a hood" but yet half way into the hood the product starts to feel to dry so you put more on the pad. This stuff didn't give me that problem at all. Good stuff.
Accumulator
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Chris223 said:
Glad to hear the 845 worked well for you.
Yeah, a lot of product-usage directions say to use too much and IMO people generally tend to do that anyhow. With most LSPs, I just use enough to keep the application pad moving smoothly; I'd rather add a tiny bit fairly often than put a big blob on the pad and do a huge area.
Interesting that use used the SFX-3 *after* the cleaner wax :think: I often advocate the cleaner wax/Collinite combo, even though it might not be "Autopian enough" for some people.