detailinig non-clear coated car question / zaino q

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imported_carnut00

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I usually detailed clear coated vehicles, this will be my first non-cleared vehicle.



I usually do clay-->swirl removal (menzerna)-->polish-->wax. How would it differ on a non-cleared car? does everything change? The car has heavy swirls.



Are the steps the same? or is it different now that the car doesnt have a clear.



also I plan on using zaino-3 after the swirl removal, is that the only zaino product i can use on this car?
 
If I'm not mistaken (correct me if I'm wrong) but Zaino can't be used on single stage paint. I could have sworn I read that. You can ask JasonC8301 or Deanski. They are Zaino guys.



The other products and steps are fine. However, don't be alarmed when you see paint on your pad during the polishing step. It's normal.



The Menzerna is a nice product to use as a first step (after clay). If have AIO, that would make a great second step. I have found it works well with the Menzerna. Then finish with a nice wax.



It'll look great! Again, don't be alarmed at the paint transfer on the pad.
 
Z3 is for non-clearcoated finishes. Of course you must use Z1 prior to Z3. The question is can you use ZFX with Z3? That's a Sal question. Give him a call or e-mail ( after 5pm est) and I assure you that Sal will respond very quickly ( <2hrs). The second question is - Can Z2 or 5 be applied after initial coat (s) of Z3.



I would also add a Dawn wash after the polishing to remove any residual oils that may hinder maximum Z3 bonding. Follow this with a very good rinse or better yet a Z7 wash and Z6 pre-Z3 application wipe down. This way you can re-evaluate your prep work and make any corrections prior to Z3. Take your time, if possible, and maximize the prep ( depth, gloss, and swirl reduction ( elimination)). :wavey
 
Can't help with the Z part of the process, but I treat my single-stage cars just like my base/clear ones. BUT the single-stage paints *I* have cut MUCH easier than clearcoat, so *I* find them easier to work. Don't panic when your polishing/compounding pad gets caked with pigment, that's normal and OK. It might LOOK like you're taking off ALL the paint, but you're just used to clearcoats. And being used to clearcoats, don't expect single-stage to have quite the dazzle or "pop" that you're used to, most of them just don't look like that no matter what you do. It's a different look (one that I often like BETTER).



Just don't keep at it until it's PERFECT if common sense says not to (like on an older car that's been through who knows what for decades). With clear, if you take off too much you get eventual clearcoat failure or if you REALLY take off too much you cut right through it to the color coat. With single-stage you just cut through to primer if you go too far, no real margin for error or warning signs. And yes, you CAN do it with a PC and mild compounds (I KNOW you can, '84 Volvos have black primer :o ).
 
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