Detailing Health Hazards?

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This may be a crazy question. I am considering a full-time job as a detailer. Is being around chemicals all day safe?
Like I know some mild acid is use as a wheel cleaner. Then I hear the contents of what in compound isn't good, something like silica. Or am I worrying too much,
like they say aspartame (artificial sweetener) is not good for you but you would need to ingest 5 pounds a day before it's a health hazard.
I know the garage is ventilated but maybe not as much as you would wish sometimes, especially in winter when cars are being moved around.
Is it a reason to not be a detailer full time? I never heard of anyone getting sick from it but I did google it and there are talks about its hazards.
Thanks all!
 
Proper saftey gear, heavy duty black nitrite gloves, a REAL 3m heavy duty respirator with proper filters for EACH chemical, proper lightingnand clothing including shoes.
 
But I've never seen one detailer wearing a respirator. Are you talking about wearing a respirator for a regular correction and wax? Or are you talking about for heavy acid exposure?
Thanks!
 
Acid exposure, Heavy wheel cleaner sprays, heavy apc misting, coating application. I don't take chances. We don't know what in store health wise with these coatings.
 
I've actually started wearing a 3m mask when using apc's, wheel cleaners, etc...as I've noticed a few times my throat feeling funny the next day. Better safe than sorry
 
Breathing chemicals several hours a day can only be harmful, or trigger processes in your body that could end badly. Some would argue its no more harmful than breathing polluted air or smoking. We are what we breath, eat, and drink.
 
You might want to get the MSDS info for the products you are using.
I never considered a respirator but my PB Spray and Rinse definitely gives an acid odor.. I hold my breath when spraying it outside.
Now driver has me wondering about my BF coating I'll be applying after pollen season.
845 insulator wax is a fumer. One I won't use much because of it. I do all my polish/waxing in my garage. Take Drivers advice and wear some PPE.
http://www.collinite.com/assets/Uploads/MSDS-PDFs/845msds.pdf (even suggests a respirator in closed spaces)
 
ShawnF350 said:
You might want to get the MSDS info for the products you are using.
I never considered a respirator but my PB Spray and Rinse definitely gives an acid odor.. I hold my breath when spraying it outside.
Now driver has me wondering about my BF coating I'll be applying after pollen season.
845 insulator wax is a fumer. One I won't use much because of it. I do all my polish/waxing in my garage. Take Drivers advice and wear some PPE.
http://www.collinite.com/assets/Uploads/MSDS-PDFs/845msds.pdf (even suggests a respirator in closed spaces)
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Spray and Rinse is one of the few products that really bugged my nose. As a hobbyist there really isn't any product that is worth dealing with that. But I agree gloves for everything, I don't use a mask but do work in well ventilated areas.
 
silverfox said:
Breathing chemicals several hours a day can only be harmful, or trigger processes in your body that could end badly. Some would argue its no more harmful than breathing polluted air or smoking. We are what we breath, eat, and drink.
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Except when you do this full time, day in day out it will impact health. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind, one if not all products can be bad for you over years of repeat use without protection. The epa measures an regulates the polution in all areas of the US. If you inhqled apc over 10 years daily your lungs would suffer, my skin used to burn with sonax till I got gloves, an started wearing long pants from spray back. No more flip flops unless its a pure soap wash only.
 
Guy's I'm not trying to scare anyone here but there are risks. I don't think you need a mask with coatings if your a hobbist but if your doing this or anything else that involves close contact with any chemical daily, especially indoors you owe to your self to protect your health. The fact is we have tons of new advanced products that are test for today, not what issues they may cause of long term. Its always best to be safe, I really don't want to see anyone on here with any kind of issue.

My best adive is becareful with all exposure, skin, eye and lung. Be weary of any kind of aerosolized product, especially if your out side an you have gusts. If there's ever a question of spray back take the time to cover your eyes an becauseful when wearing flip flops an washing. My feet used to burnnn when sonax or ever heavy apc was in the run off from a wash. Lastly, always buy real osha approved health gear. Spend the money good gear, you will thank yourself!

I use these being I can change out the filters when they are spent or for the right chemical. Different filters for different chemicals.

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M105 makes my eyes and throat irritated for about 24-36 hours after a solid day's worth of exposure to it, even with good ventilation. I e-mailed Meguiar's to ask them if I should worry, and they claimed there was nothing in it that will harm me, but still I won't use it without goggles and at minimum a painter's mask.
 
better safe than sorry!
Compounds and polishes have abrasives in the dust particles that most create and I'm sure they can't be good for you!
As for other chemicals when sprayed in fine mist you will definitely be breathing them in and like ShawnF350 said
"You might want to get the MSDS info for the products you are using."
Another tool that can cause breathing problems are the "Tornador" type tools that use air pressure and atomize the product, so a respirator is highly recommended in those situations
 
impressions said:
better safe than sorry!
Compounds and polishes have abrasives in the dust particles that most create and I'm sure they can't be good for you!
As for other chemicals when sprayed in fine mist you will definitely be breathing them in and like ShawnF350 said
"You might want to get the MSDS info for the products you are using."
Another tool that can cause breathing problems are the "Tornador" type tools that use air pressure and atomize the product, so a respirator is highly recommended in those situations
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This is one of the main reasons why I won't get a Tornador.
 
The Silica abrasives in products like 3M PI-II RC really *could* be serious bad news, just like asbestos. And I avoid the more potent acids in some Wheel Cleaners, period.

I'm no alarmist by any stretch of the imagination, but some of this stuff is change-your-life-serious.
 
Accumulator said:
The Silica abrasives in products like 3M PI-II RC really *could* be serious bad news, just like asbestos. And I avoid the more potent acids in some Wheel Cleaners, period.

I'm no alarmist by any stretch of the imagination, but some of this stuff is change-your-life-serious.
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Poorboy's Spray and Rinse wheel cleaner is the only product I've had to stop using due to it burning my airways.
 
ec90 said:
Poorboy's Spray and Rinse wheel cleaner is the only product I've had to stop using due to it burning my airways.
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Smart move, not using it any more.

If *any* product bothers somebody, then IMO they oughta quit using it. If others are OK with it fine, but they're not you.
 
Not trying to stir anything up but.... tons of people concerned about breathing chemicals i'm sure are already ingesting them from what they eat on a day to day basis (fast food, processed foods, GMOs etc...) .

If i did this full time I'd always wear PPE as well, i only do it part time and still wear my heavy duty gloves and closed toe shoes, need to work on getting used to not wearing shorts and getting more long sleeved shirts.
 
Migue said:
Not trying to stir anything up but.... tons of people concerned about breathing chemicals i'm sure are already ingesting them from what they eat on a day to day basis...
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And are exposing themselves to hazards from other lifestyle-choices too, huh? Can't enjoy the car hobby thing, or much else, if you're not healthy.
 
Accumulator said:
And are exposing themselves to hazards from other lifestyle-choices too, huh? Can't enjoy the car hobby thing, or much else, if you're not healthy.
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Right, once i reach my goal of going full time, the plan is to be healthier than ever ( I already eat right and workout). It's physically demanding work and not having the comfort of cheap health insurance that a big corporation job may provide makes me more aware of the fact that i need to be in tip top shape to take on this as a career for good. It's gonna suck wearing a good amount of PPE in the TX Heat, but i'd rather wipe sweat off than having a jacked up immune system.
 
Migue said:
Not trying to stir anything up but.... tons of people concerned about breathing chemicals i'm sure are already ingesting them from what they eat on a day to day basis (fast food, processed foods, GMOs etc...) .

If i did this full time I'd always wear PPE as well, i only do it part time and still wear my heavy duty gloves and closed toe shoes, need to work on getting used to not wearing shorts and getting more long sleeved shirts.
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Take it from a guy whos been through anaphylaxis over 5 times, when your body bothers your over anything, take heed...

Fun fact, allergic reactions may be mild the first time but even a second time can trigger a full on attack. After that, each attack your time till full on asphyxiation is reduced. Scariest thing I've ever experienced and a truly humbling one at what one little spec of the wrong stuff can do.
 
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