Detailing as a Career

lp2137

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Hey guys



I've been frequenting the forums for a few months now. I've been picking up a lot of useful information but I'm curious about Detailing as a career. I'm 17 and am starting my senior year of highschool in a little more than a week.



I've never been much of a person that wants to go to college, school just doesn't seem to cut it for me. I rather be out somewhere learning by experience rather than getting lectured. As for detailing I have learned a TON of info off of this forum but out working on my parent's car I also have learned a ton.



I guess I'm just curious to know how all you guys have started up your businesses and I've always been curious to what you guys do in the winter if you're in a cold climate area?



Anyway, any feedback or wisdom would be greatly appreciated as I am unsure of what I want to do as a career but I'd love for it to be with something to do with cars especially detailing. I love seeing a transformation whether it be detailing a car or helping my mom with the lawn and garden, anything like that.
 
you should still try to goto college so you have something to fall back on. Even something like management can help you better control your own business, especially for the aspects of running a busniess that autopia cant help you with.
 
go to college and detail while in college taking your time to get your detailing business ready for when you get out to go all out on it. that is what I am doing....I am in my last year with only 6 classes to get my management degree and I am giving myself the next two years to get my business up and running the way I want it to! after that, if I dont have what I want as far as the business goes, I can always fall back on my degree and get a management position working for an established company and detail on the side! GO TO SCHOOL
 
Go to college. Detail on the side for beer money.

Detailing is great, every girl I date gets a full exterior paint detail within the first month. That way whenever they get into their shiny car, they see me! Just think of how many chics cars you can detail in college. You get good practice and maybe get laid. Live at home, go to college, detail on the side and chase girls. You are 17 for crying out loud!



If you don't like getting lectured, just wait to you meet your first boss with your non-college degree level job. We never stop getting lectured: teachers, bosses, clients (customer is always right), wifes, mothers. Go to school so you can lecture someone else. :)
 
johnhoefer said:
Go to college. Detail on the side for beer money.

Detailing is great, every girl I date gets a full exterior paint detail within the first month. That way whenever they get into their shiny car, they see me! Just think of how many chics cars you can detail in college. You get good practice and maybe get laid. Live at home, go to college, detail on the side and chase girls. You are 17 for crying out loud!



If you don't like getting lectured, just wait to you meet your first boss with your non-college degree level job. We never stop getting lectured: teachers, bosses, clients (customer is always right), wifes, mothers. Go to school so you can lecture someone else. :)



Thats exactly what I do. The thoughts been through my head many times about professional detailing. But, I do one car, and im beat. Some people may not think, but detailing does take a lot out of you. Also, I think if I did detailing everyday I would lose my passion for it.
 
Best advice?



Go to College for Business Management, as well as Financial Planning, and maybe Accounting.



Detailing is experience, but having a good Career requires planning and making a lot of money means either owning your own business, or being high-up in somebody elses.



Having said that, Business Management MINDSET is what every employer wants, and it will help you no matter what.



Real life experience can only teach you what you're shown, and teachers show you everything :rules:
 
you cant detail forever, your body wont handle it....sooner or later you will have to either own the detail company, or find a 9-5 somewhere making someone else money....go to school to make use of your time making your money
 
where do you live?



If your not the 4 yr college type, then don't bother.



Learn a trade, do what drives you forward and makes you happy.



I started detailing when i was your age, in a body shop.



My advice to you about your future that I want you to write down and put it where you'll see it every day is this.



"Do what you love, Do it to the best of your ability, Dream Big, and put 20% of your income in a Roth IRA"
 
You have no idea how much I appreciate the advice guys, I know that you guys work your *** off and produce great work.



It seems as the general opinion is for me to go to college so I have something to fall back on. Going to college for business has lingered in the back of my mind because the retail business is in my blood but I like to take the course of mangement. I guess I am very particular in the way I want things run.



I guess what's holding me back besides not being the 4 year college type is the price and loss of time. My brother is going to college now to be an engineer and I know that when he gets out he's going to have a handsome amount of loans to pay back and I just don't want that. Nowadays most people are spending more than 4 years in college and I just can't justify losing 4-6 years. I see it as losing rather than gaining.



Evenflow: I understand what you mean about being beat, I think everyone is like that. After I detail my parent's car I'm always beat but I love seeing something progress and I think that would keep my drive going.



Fivestar: I'm from the Chicago burbs and cars drive me. I'm not inclined mechanically but I do love to see a car fully detailed.
 
I have two cousins that have Phd's. I dont think you can really get anywhere without at least a masters today. but they are making serious bank and don't have any trouble paying off their loans.



With Business in the back of your mind, think about your profit to expenditure ratio on repaying those loans.



If you get a degree from graduate school, you'll probably have somebody come over and detail your cars.



Once again, it's doing what you want to do best
 
Five Star said:
I have two cousins that have Phd's. I dont think you can really get anywhere without at least a masters today. but they are making serious bank and don't have any trouble paying off their loans.



With Business in the back of your mind, think about your profit to expenditure ratio on repaying those loans.



If you get a degree from graduate school, you'll probably have somebody come over and detail your cars.



Once again, it's doing what you want to do best



I agree that the new up and coming trend is that you must have a masters. Althought I'd love to have the nicer house and nicer car but I'd honestly rather be a happier person than making a substantial salary but hating to go to work everyday.
 
lp2137 said:
I'd honestly rather be a happier person than making a substantial salary but hating to go to work everyday.



thats what its all about. dont forget to put money away in a Roth IRA.

The earlier you start, the more you'll have when you retire



3k in a Roth for 7 yrs at your age will give you about 1.5 mil at age 60



now let me get off my butt and get ready for the day
 
lp2137 said:
I've been frequenting the forums for a few months now. I've been picking up a lot of useful information but I'm curious about Detailing as a career.



I guess I'm just curious to know how all you guys have started up your businesses



Anyway, any feedback or wisdom would be greatly appreciated as I am unsure of what I want to do as a career but I'd love for it to be with something to do with cars especially detailing.



The following article will give you an idea of how I started my own detailing business.



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Reprinted from America's Car Care Business Magazine

October 2004



AMERICA’S CAR CARE BUSINESS



Inside Detailing



“I believe that professional detailers need to concentrate on business principles even more than they concentrate on detailing principles.� “When it comes to detailing, it’s not about price. It’s more about offering a high-quality service.�



Frank Canna, Mirror Finish Detailing



MORE THAN JUST SMOKE AND MIRRORS



Business Professionalism



It’s not like Canna didn’t know what to expect when he opened Mirror Finish as a part-time mobile detailing business in 1986. For years he had worked as a quality assurance manager for a local car wash manufacturing firm. During that time he says he came upon two realizations that helped launch his business.



“First, I began to realize that there was a growing need for specialized automobile detailing services,� he says. “Second, I also began to realize that I could earn extra income doing something that I really enjoyed. Since I had always kept my own vehicles cleaned and polished, it was only natural to start to offer the same service for other people.�



When these thoughts started coming to Canna, he didn’t jump right into the detailing business--he got educated. Canna started with attending entrepreneur small business courses at Rutgers University in Camden, N.J., and followed that up with advertising and marketing seminars at Drexel University in Philadelphia.



“One of the very first things I did after attending a few of these business courses was to write a business plan,� says Canna. “I still write down everything. Every idea, every thought still gets documented. Actually the original mission of my business is still the same as I had written it back in 1986. I really believe that professional detailers need to concentrate on business principles even more than they concentrate on detailing principles. I would say that 80 percent of the educational effort should be focused on learning more about what it takes to own and operate a successful and profitable business. The other 20 percent should be learning more about the actual process of detailing.�



Canna says that too often, many detailing businesses fail because the owners are too busy taking care of the technical side of the business. “These guys may be good detailers, however, that does not necessarily make them good business owners.�



Canna says that his detailing ability comes naturally from his father. “My ability to do detailing was the result of my dad taking the time to teach me everything he knew about how to properly clean, polish and wax a vehicle,� he says. “He always had a clean car and he always did all of the work himself. It was only natural for me to follow in his footsteps.�



Business Model



Canna operates strictly a mobile detailing operation where all of the cleaning, polishing and waxing is done at the customer’s business or home. And, even though automobile and boat detailing does take up a majority of his time, Canna is also taking advantage of a number of other business avenues.



“I learned early on that in order to become successful you must constantly be focused on meeting the needs of your customers,� he says. “My customers are now like family and friends. Our mutual respect for one and other goes well beyond the scope of detailing.



This brings us to professionalism, which Canna says is the reason he has been so successful. “Professionalism is the key to operating a successful and profitable detailing business,� he notes. “Of course, customers expect to see good results; however, they are equally concerned with all of the things that you do that adds up to creating an overall good experience. For example, since I operate a mobile detailing business it is very important that I arrive on the job at the agreed time of the appointment. I also dress in clean, professional-looking, color-coordinated work cloths. Matching work hat with embroidered company name, etc. All of this makes a statement with the customer.�



Another reason that Canna believes he has been successful is his viewpoint. “I constantly try to look at everything from the customer’s prospective,� he says. “I treat my customers the same way I like to be treated. I use only the finest professional products because that is what I would use on my own cars. However, the single most important reason why I have remained so successful is because I understand that my customers are not interested in just getting the lowest price. They are much more interested in knowing they are receiving high-quality service and getting their money’s worth.



"Too often, detailing businesses fail because they are constantly trying to compete with other detailers and constantly lowering their prices,� adds Canna. “In the detailing business, that is simply a mistake. A low price may matter when you’re doing wholesale restoration work for a dealership; however, most retail customers care more about getting a high-quality job and they are not afraid to pay a much higher price for that kind of service.�



As with most small businesses, Canna has experimented with a number of marketing avenues before finding something that worked for him. In his case, customer referrals are what worked the best. “My customers just love telling their family and friends about my detailing service,� he says. “They are constantly sending me new customer referrals. I have also found that just talking with people who own an expensive car often yields good results too. That is why I always carry a couple of business cards with me. You never know when someone is going to ask about my detailing services.�



Tips For Others



Canna says the main thing to becoming successful is to learn how to operate a business. “You have to create a strategic plan that will help to identify the customer and why that customer needs the service being offered,� he says. “Remember, when it comes to detailing, it’s not about price. It’s more about offering a high-quality service. Finally, always remain focused on meeting the needs of your customer. If everything else fails just providing professional services and meeting the needs of your customer can make you a success.



"Too many detailers spend way too much time worrying about the competition and how everything relates to their own personal needs,� says Canna. “Doing that is a sure recipe for failure. For a detailer to be successful they must remain focused on constantly giving the customer much more than they expect. They must remain focused on meeting and exceeding the needs of their customer. To be successful the customer must truly come first.



Where does Canna see his business going over the next couple of years? He says the major growth of his detailing business will continue to come from specializing in the care and appearance maintenance of more and more high-end vehicles, such as exotic sports cars, antique and classic cars.



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this may sound funny, but im in the same boat as you. however, ive pretty much made up my mind as to my future plans...and to say the least, im determined. im 17, dropped out junior year to continue via online-homeschooling. this frees up much more time, takes about an hour a day, and this school is actually much better than the one i was going to. im about to start my detailing business, instead of just for family and friends. i should be able to get my diploma by next june with having to repeat my junior year.



while going to school, i will still have time to detail, and make a name for myself. after highschool, im planning on taking night classes for autobody repair, and possibly business management. then follow that by flying out of state, and get more training specifically in paint repair, and prep. as it stands now, im a mobile detailer, but i will be fixed/mobile in the future. thats just some of what i plan to do, figured id give you an idea.



if youre really set on detailing, put your mind to it, and do it. there is always going to be a need for quality detailers, and its not a small market. next to a house, a persons car is usually the most expensive thing they own, and they want it to look its best. the day when everybody turns hick on us, and starts burying their jeeps in mudbogs, we may have a problem. but as it stands now, its a reliable career.



if you enjoy doing it, and you have the stamina to detail a few cars a week, focus on it. as another poster said, id much rather be happy doing something i love, than making a bunch of money doing something i dread.



edit. go to college for a few years. however, you dont need a masters if your heart is set on detailing. why would you need a bunch of opportunities if you already know what you want to do for rest of your years? if you set your mind to anything, you can do it...if you have trouble, try again. dont give up on something you love, it will pay off in the long run.
 
Thanks again for all the advice guys. I just think that it's stupid for a piece of paper (diploma) to "open so many doors." I know I'm young but I just can't imagine losing 4-6 years of my life stuck in school again. After that all I will have accomplished is a nice amount of loans to pay back before I can even think about my future.
 
I'm gonna go against the crowd here and suggest that you do NOT go to college if your heart isn't there.



Yes, college is probably the standard nowadays for being successful in life, but if you don't have the passion to learn and you dread every lecture, then you are really just throwing away that tuition money. I'm in my junior year of business management and the only reason I've made it this far is because I'm too far in to back out now.



You'll get a lot of opposition on this decision, but you need to do what makes you happy- even if it means you'll struggle more to get by. You're at the age now that you need to start making decisions for yourself, so pick a path that you'll enjoy.
 
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