Detail sprays on top of Ultima PGP. Anyone tried Z-8 or AW yet?

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The UDSP is a decent detail spray for cleaning up the surface but I do not think it changes the look at all which makes it quite expensive for just cleaning.



What other detail sprays have anybody used with UPGP? Has anyone tried using any of the sealant toppers like Z-8 or AW yet? Any streaking or flat out incompatibility issues?



I am not impressed with the reflections that UPGP creates at all and I've been thinking that Z-8, AW or even less the durable FK425 could help it out.
 
I've used meguiars quick detailer and it seems to work fine. I am waiting to get the Ultima detail spray to my door though to see how it is, along with the ultima wash and tire and trim guard.
 
I've used Z6 and Z8 over it. No incompatibilities, and as Josh said, the Z8 looks great. The Z6 didn't really add to the look like the Z8 did, though.
 
SuperBee364 said:
I've used Z6 and Z8 over it. No incompatibilities, and as Josh said, the Z8 looks great. The Z6 didn't really add to the look like the Z8 did, though.
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how did the Z8 change the look? I would love to find something that added extra wetness to the finish and was considering Z8.



thanks
 
has anyone put fk425 over upgp? since everyone raves about fk425, i would think this could be a good combo.
 
not get off topic, but what did you think of the prima hydro?

I love it. My next door neigbors detail cars and ne day stopped by and told me to try it as i was drying my car. I normally use 1 spray per panel while wet but not to much water and it leaves the surface super slick. It really does get slicker the more you let it cure. I can compare it to pinnacle cm but it leave the surface slicker. It seems to have some anti-static properties and looks better the next day. I use it on my black rr sport and it make the flakes stand out. My guess is it is just like aquawax. I had ordered a gallon so i have enogh to last for a while. If you would like a sample you can pm me your info and I will send some out. I read how everyone rave about dg aw so that is next on my list plus it is alot cheaper.
 
i have'nt tried the prima hydro or fk425 yet, but i definitely intend to, i can't imagine them being any better than aw but i've been surprised more than once using the recommendations for different products on this site.
 
If you try hydro you wont be dissapointed. See at the time i didn't know about aw. So i had nothing to compare it to as for wax as you dry sprays. From what i hear about aw i will def get that when i run out just to compare and if they compare evnly then i will stick with aw because it is cheaper. I also have tried the ultima detail spray and really didnt care for it because i could stop the streaking. But if you alrady have z8 and aw then I would sitck with that.
 
I tried FK425 on top of UPGP today. No streaking issues. Looks very nice. The wetness was still there and the FK425 brought the reflections more in focus. Still not as in focus as before I put the UPGP on. I'm very disappointed with UPGP in the reflection department. I'll try topping it with Z-8 and AW in a week or so.
 
Bigpikle said:
how did the Z8 change the look? I would love to find something that added extra wetness to the finish and was considering Z8.



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That's pretty much what Z8 did. I like it better than Z6 or Ultima's QD.
 
never gone said:
I just got z8 a couple weeks ago and I can't believe how wet and slick it makes the surface. Most def a different ball game from z6.
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Correct.:werd:

Z6 is a QD with mild cleansing ability that reveals the beauty of the LSP.

Z8 is a spray sealant that bumps up wetness, slickness, gloss and depth at the same time adding weeks of protection to the underlying LSP.
 
DJBAILEY said:
I tried FK425 on top of UPGP today. No streaking issues. Looks very nice. The wetness was still there and the FK425 brought the reflections more in focus. Still not as in focus as before I put the UPGP on. I'm very disappointed with UPGP in the reflection department. I'll try topping it with Z-8 and AW in a week or so.
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What color is the paint?
 
My car is a black (clearcoated) Volvo 850 wagon. I had polished it with 106FF and white pad 2-3 times then then poished it with PO85RD and a blue Sonus SFX-3 pad 2x. It did not need major correction. Just some normal marring from washing to remove so I was really trying to get the paint as smooth and glossy as possible. I had some incredible reflections when I was done. I mean I could even see the pores on my face and the weird hairs that have started growing out of my ears from 2-3 feet away. It was virtually a mirror with only very minor orange peel that still remains.



After I put UPGP on those reflections lost focus and became shimmery (if that's a word). It totally took away from my prep work. I've never had Z-CS (Z-2/5 Pro either) or OS do that to me before. I also feel that the UPGP introduced a very slight grayness to the black paint. I ended up putting 4 layers on the tops and 3 on the side panels.



The FK425 helped with the reflections, but I'm disappointed that I have to use another product to correct the shortcomings of the UPGP.
 
DJBAILEY said:
My car is a black (clearcoated) Volvo 850 wagon. I had polished it with 106FF and white pad 2-3 times then then poished it with PO85RD and a blue Sonus SFX-3 pad 2x. It did not need major correction. Just some normal marring from washing to remove so I was really trying to get the paint as smooth and glossy as possible. I had some incredible reflections when I was done. I mean I could even see the pores on my face and the weird hairs that have started growing out of my ears from 2-3 feet away. It was virtually a mirror with only very minor orange peel that still remains.



After I put UPGP on those reflections lost focus and became shimmery (if that's a word). It totally took away from my prep work. I've never had Z-CS (Z-2/5 Pro either) or OS do that to me before. I also feel that the UPGP introduced a very slight grayness to the black paint. I ended up putting 4 layers on the tops and 3 on the side panels.



The FK425 helped with the reflections, but I'm disappointed that I have to use another product to correct the shortcomings of the UPGP.
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Have you given the vehicle a good thorough wash and QD'ing since the UPGP was applied? I couldn't believe how much better the UPGP looked after my car's first post application bath/QD. It's like removing the haze from a coat of wax...it should be the last step of the application process for UPGP. Even using a run of the mill QD will really help level out the sealant, remove areas of over-application, and reveal UPGP's true colors.
 
SuperBee364 said:
Have you given the vehicle a good thorough wash and QD'ing since the UPGP was applied? I couldn't believe how much better the UPGP looked after my car's first post application bath/QD. It's like removing the haze from a coat of wax...it should be the last step of the application process for UPGP. Even using a run of the mill QD will really help level out the sealant, remove areas of over-application, and reveal UPGP's true colors.
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I read this suggestion somewhere else, and its spot-on. I was first dissappointed with UPGP. I had the same results, a shimmering finish, somewhat hazy. But after an application of 75:25 mix of FC&S/AW , the paint looked incredible. I did a side by side with 105. UPGP had more gloss and slickness then 105, no question.
 
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