Decals removed..now Nightmare dullness

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dmxsoulja3

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So I got a call from a guy who bought a Yellow F150 that served its life on the beach as "marine patrol"



He removed the decals, and of course its glossy underneath, and you can still read the outlines of the letters really well. He says he tried some "cleaner wax" with his "buffer" and it couldn't get it to even out. Hes not expecting 100% perfection but we are looking to correct it some. Has anyone ever ran up against this, and what type of product should I use..pad as well I suppose. I have a PC, and a Cyclo, pads of every color, swirl removers, KAIO, that kinda thing.



Thanks in advanced, J
 
Yeah thats my plan, if that doesn't work I might just abandon the job, I don't think he wants to pay a whole lot, and I don't want to pull out a yellow pad on it either as I'm not comfortable with that type of correction yet.
 
dmxsoulja3 said:
So I got a call from a guy who bought a Yellow F150 that served its life on the beach as "marine patrol"



He removed the decals, and of course its glossy underneath, and you can still read the outlines of the letters really well. He says he tried some "cleaner wax" with his "buffer" and it couldn't get it to even out.



Thanks in advanced, J
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Has anybody stopped top ask, "Has the paint around the letters faded after years of exposure to sunlight on the beach? Is the paint that was hidden under the decals the original,unfaded color?"
 
STG said:
Has anybody stopped top ask, "Has the paint around the letters faded after years of exposure to sunlight on the beach? Is the paint that was hidden under the decals the original,unfaded color?"
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That could be. I noticed when I debadged my car that that there was a slight difference as well, but for me some AIO took it off.
 
It's the paint that has faded and the paint under the decals did not fade. You can polish it and use products on it all you want but you won't fix the problem. If it bothers him enough he is going to have to get it repainted.
 
Danase said:
It's the paint that has faded and the paint under the decals did not fade. You can polish it and use products on it all you want but you won't fix the problem. If it bothers him enough he is going to have to get it repainted.
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or it is just oxidation

and AIO will take care of it:bigups
 
I'd try a medium polish on it, and if it's still visible, then as Danase said, the colorcoat has probably faded and there's not much that can be done beyond a repaint. However, on the chance that the ghosting is being caused by differences in how the covered/uncovered clearcoat aged, and not the fading of the basecoat, I'd hit it with a bit of polish and the Cyclo to see if it evens out.



My $1.05,

Tort
 
BigJimZ28 said:
or it is just oxidation

and AIO will take care of it:bigups
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He tried cleaner wax and polish and it did nothing. Chances are the decals where on there for a while and since the truck was a beach patrol truck is was probably in the sun 24/7.
 
There are a few things you can do, but only one will make it look the best.



1. Cleaner wax. Klasse AIO is good, Optimum PolySeal, or any paint cleaner. They will remove the actual oxidation from around the decals, so hopefully it will match closer.



Never in my experiences



2. Polish it out. The biggest reason you cannot make the outside paint match the paint under the decal, is merely because of deep swirl marks. Over the truck's life with decals, it was washed hundreds of times, most likely not carefully, and polished very rarely.



The paint under the decals is basically brand new, while the rest has survived years of abuse. You gotta polish the entire panel (or at least the area around the decals) to be like brand new for it to match.



Then there is the issue of paint FADING, which shouldn't happen, but somehow does. There is no way to correct other than a respray.



3. Wetsand it! Wetsanding the area will bring everything down to a fresh layer of paint (2000 grit for 2 or 3 passes, or 3000 grit for 4 or 5). Then compound the paint and polish it, and that is the absolute best you can get it without a respray.



Hope this helps!
 
yeah its sun damage, harsh salt air, sun all the time, I think the paint is just faded beyond full repair, I'm going to try some AIO on it and if that doesn't work hes going to have to deal or respray, I'm not nearly proficient enough to remove wetsanding marks, and none of you guys are close enough to me!! :)
 
Danase said:
He tried cleaner wax and polish and it did nothing. Chances are the decals where on there for a while and since the truck was a beach patrol truck is was probably in the sun 24/7.
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you could be correct

but if he spends 30 seconds with some AIO what did he loose?

and also he stated the customer tried some cleaner wax not him

so I don't put much faith in that



if it is oxidation it's worth a try...that's all
 
Somewhere around 1997 I pulled the pinstripping tape off my 1980 Triumph. To say the least, the unfaded paint under the tape was quite different in appearance from the rest of the paint that had been bleaching for 17 years.



Now, about 10 years later, the difference isn't as pronounced. Oh, you can still see it, but it's not as obvious.



So your friend can take heart, with the passage of a few decades, it will disapear.
 
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