Dealer Prep anybody?

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Beason

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Im thinking some OC and Yellow or Orange pad will do fine. Anyone got any suggestions?
 
Your dealer and my dealer must be relatives . . . my S4 had identical holograms and marring :mad:



Yes, OC and orange pad should do the trick. Good luck.
 
OC and orange pad should do the trick if they aren't too deep. But I'm sure you'll want to finish off with a softer pad and polish.
 
[quote name='Knockwurst']Your dealer and my dealer must be relatives . . . my S4 had identical holograms and marring :mad:



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That's funny. Most dealers are so stupid - I mean how smart do you have to be to figure out that doesn't look good.
 
Why do dealers buff on the cars? I work at a dealership and all we is wash the cars, and if someone actually gets the stupid paint"sealant" it gets applied like a wax.
 
mowerpan said:
Why do dealers buff on the cars? I work at a dealership and all we is wash the cars, and if someone actually gets the stupid paint"sealant" it gets applied like a wax.
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Lot's of times the problems(swirls) originates at the factory. Some hack grinds out an imperfection from of a freshly painted car. Ford is the worst. I can't complain too much because we would do probably 10-15 cars per month. OEM warranty usually paid up to $150 to fix it.
 
OK, on the dealer's behalf, or at least the detailer's, they might not have good lighting, well I guess they can bring it out in the sun, but if they are in a hurry, which is what is generally pushed then they might not have time. I used to work at a dealer and they had crappy lighting and we always had to do stuff really fast, they didn't care that it didn't look good, just that we did it fast. I always tried to do my best, but when I worked at night with a couple lights, there wasn't much I could do other than try, but I saw my work in the sun the next day and was disappointed in myself. But anyways, blame is most likely more so on their bosses for hurrying them and yes partially them, but thats the other side od the story.
 
RAG said:
OC and orange pad should do the trick if they aren't too deep. But I'm sure you'll want to finish off with a softer pad and polish.
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I was planning to finish with OP w/ Polishing, Z5pro x3, z2pro x3
 
Perfect. But to anwere your initial question, I've encountered some bad buffer work that took an ultra-heavy compound and a yellow cutting pad (via rotary) to remove. Seriously. I then had to step down from there to finish it off.
 
very good point rag, my partner went by a few hole in the wall lots and offered his services, hes not much of a salesman so when they told him they like the job thier guy is doing he didnt mention anything about the rotary traces or how marred every vehicle on thier lot was. i went by both of them the other day dropped off a card with the managers and let them know to call me if they wanted the rotary swirls removed off ALL of thier vehicles. and walked out the door.
 
well I got to work on it some and needless to say it is more work then I was expecting.



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50/50 after a pass with OC and Yellow Pad

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Closer Left Before

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Closer Right After

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Didnt get some stuff out so I stepped up to DACP and an Orange Cutting Pad

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Better but not perfect. Still some swirls and scrathes, but no trails



Any suggestions? I tried DACP and a yellow pad and it didnt look that much different. I think I will be investing in a rotary soon.
 
i think it's a question of using the wrong tool for the job. If these dealerships even need to use a rotary they should be just follow that step with a milder polish and a PC.

Problem solved. But like someone said, they probably don't even notice those trails. Which is amazing in itself.
 
LangMan37 said:
i think it's a question of using the wrong tool for the job. If these dealerships even need to use a rotary they should be just follow that step with a milder polish and a PC.

Problem solved. But like someone said, they probably don't even notice those trails. Which is amazing in itself.
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I agree, I talked to a guy earlier tonight who wanted some advice on using a PC, but he works at a dealer and uses a rotary to remove oxidation. Said he had no training before either. :shocked Needless to say I wanted to reach through the screen and choke him after working on his "cousins" work.
 
it is so stupid. they hire people in at $7-$9 an hour, throw a high speed machine in their hand with little or no training, and that person is now a detailer. The general public seems to accept this substandard work as what detailing is and what you should expect. But it is quite gratifying to take a car that's been detailed at a dealership, usually having to point out the holagrams to the client, and making it look like they never thought it could.

Now I'm not saying all dealerships do this shoddy kind of work but it seems a lot in my area do!
 
LangMan37 said:
it is so stupid. they hire people in at $7-$9 an hour, throw a high speed machine in their hand with little or no training, and that person is now a detailer. The general public seems to accept this substandard work as what detailing is and what you should expect. .

Now I'm not saying all dealerships do this shoddy kind of work but it seems a lot in my area do!
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You summed it up perfectly. Most of the dealers around here are the same, I saw a black Mercedes yesterday that had rotary trails and holograms all down the side. I wondered if the Merc dealer in town had done it and if they thought that was perfectly acceptable. I also applied at two lcoal dealers and said flat out that I wouldn't do hack work. Did I hear back from them? Nope. I guess they want those $7-9 an hour kids. It hurts to see cars like that but I guess it gives us business. :nixweiss
 
Its more of the dealers fault than the detailers. I was going to work for a dealership but they were way to cheap. They don't pay these detailers anything, they give them very bad products, usually automagic or cheaper. And they use old, caked, dried out, and torn pads. And the fact that they have no experience doesn't help at all.
 
SVECobraR said:
Its more of the dealers fault than the detailers. I was going to work for a dealership but they were way to cheap. They don't pay these detailers anything, they give them very bad products, usually automagic or cheaper. And they use old, caked, dried out, and torn pads. And the fact that they have no experience doesn't help at all.
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I don't think it's the product's fault, it's the person behind the product applying them. Auto Magic has nothing to do with putting out bad work.
 
Most new cars do not need to be buffed at all. Maybe a clay job , and a express wax or spray wax is all thats needed on a new car. Even some used cars dont need to be buffed. Buffind a car out is a lot of work, if its done right, so some detailers are doing a lot of work and making it worst.
 
I agree - a wash, maybe clay detail and a spray WOWO wax should be all that's necessary for a new vehicle - taking a rotary...in untrained hands to a new vehicle is just a foot shot !



I flat out wouldn't take delivery of a new vehicle that looked like that. Then again, if they prepared it that way, how would they fix it !?
 
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