DavidB, Autopia-the end of an era?

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After about a month I've noticed the hood surface of the wife's 4Runner getting contaminated. The plastic bag trick does make the finish feel rough in places.



Here's my qustion: Can I use Zaino's clay bar and Z-7 as lube to clean the surface even though I have applied Z-5 and Z-2 to the surface? Or should I wait until the spring and use a cleaner and start from scratch on the surface? It appears that I need to use something more then the Zaino polish products to get things clean again.



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Here's an original quote from Sal Zaino regarding whether claying would remove Zaino :



"A light or simple Claying will not remove Zaino.



Repeated Claying of the paint surface will eventually remove Zaino....

Zaino is very durable.... "



Deckard
 
If you are going to use any type of abrasive to clean the surface, you will need to redo the Zaino. You can clean the panels that need it, and just re-Zaino those panels if you dont want to redo the whole car.



I would try the clay first, that way if it works you wont have to start over like you would if you use an abrasive cleaner.



Good Luck!
 
No need to completely redo Zaino. Just clay and then retop with Z2 or Z5 to bring everything up to par again. I have done this for a long time and it works well. One application of clay will not remove Zaino, just pull contaminents out of it. The re-application will simply recoat the voids left by the contaminents.
 
One thing to keep in mind, which we sometimes forget, is to re-Z1 periodically. Sal says every year or 10 coats of 2,3,5. DK recommended more frequently (5-10). I re Z-1ed at 7 coats and it did made a difference.



Depending on the number of coats you have, and considering that the clay does remove some Z, you may consider re-Z1ing the areas you clay.
 
[Autopia was sold by DavidB to a new company, Autopia LLC back in May 2009 David stayed on to assist in the transition] Originally posted by admin
 
DLB said:
That was my thoughts on the matter.
The HD people have been pretty active over there, and they used Autopia to launch some of their stuff.

DLB
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Yeah, that and David helped them out a lot with it too. Do I win a prize for being the first to guess it if I'm right? :D
 
It's been a vagtastic voyage! Autopia has been nothing but good to me, no negative press on the sale. Good luck to the new owners.



What can you do?


That site must have been a ton of work for limited rewards.
 
Detailing Technology said:
It's been a vagtastic voyage! Autopia has been nothing but good to me, no negative press on the sale. Good luck to the new owners.
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Vagtastic, I thought I was the only one on the planet who used that term, LOL. I might actually be the only one who uses it IRL, though. :D

I wonder what will become of DavidB? Will we ever hear from him again?
 
Era? :yawn:

The major problem I have always had with autopia is the way some are banned with no good reason. IMO the reason why a few great detailers where banned is because of sponsor pressure.

Now if the new owners where smart, they would let these knowledgable detailers come back, that is if the detailers wanted to.
 
Street Dreams said:
...politics

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+1.
I too have lots of love for autopia, but I worry about what future direction / stance they'll take on some things. One of the things that made it great was open discussion with positive and negative comments and opinions being stated. It seems that sponsorship affects how openly you can question certain companies / marketing / tactics which surely raises some eye-brows.
 
I have no love lost for Autopia, and Bynon in particular. Autopia has been stagnant for years. It's no longer a cutting edge forum; Detailing World (UK), Autogeek and MOL eclipsed it long ago. Bynon spent a great deal of time pursuing many things away from Autopia, both personally and professionally. His lack of leadership put the forum into a state of neglect from which is has not recovered.

I know he had tried to sell the forums several times over the years. Looks like he finally found a taker.
 
RaskyR1 said:
This have anything to do with HD?
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BRAND CONSULTANT, MAY ? NOV 2009, 3D International LLC, Santa Clarita, California

Client acquired AUTOPIA.ORG community as part of a long-term strategy to transition from manufacture and distributor of products for professional car detailers, to manufacturer and direct-to-consumer distributor of car care products for consumers. 3D International retained me to create an eco-friendly car care brand for the car enthusiast market
 
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