Creating a homemade 1 Step Wax/Glaze/Light polish

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01bluecls

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Well its been a while since I have started a thread, I have been posting here and there lately but havent done much posting in the last few months. (Been busy with work and school) I read the thread that eshine started on Mixing paste waxes. I always had the idea but never thought I would give it a try. Recently, instead of melting paste waxes I have, I toyed around and came up with a mixtue of waxes to test on my Mom's Dark Green Inifiniti. The mix i made is in my Sig. After a week so far, it feels just as slick and looks just as good, of course she doesnt drive it much and it sits in the garage a lot. So the overall results are kinda of off.



The products that I list for my examples are some of the products that I currently have.



Anyways, back to my thread title, I was wondering for curiousity purposes mainly, would it be a bad idea to mix waxes, with glazes and/or light polishes (light polishes i mean like AIO, or P21S GEPC).



I have a bottle of Meg's No7 showcar glaze that i have only used once and hated because of the smearing. I thought maybe if i mix No7 (20-30%) with something like Meg's Liquid Gold Class or my Collinite IW, would there be more negatives then positives? Im thinking the wax properties allow hazing (drying) to speed up the drying of the No7 so there wont be as much smearing but still make the wax look better.



Another thought of mixing I am pondering about, are items like Klasse AIO and Collinite IW mixed to create a good cleaning/very light polishing/protecting finish in one step? Or maybe P21S paint cleansing lotion with Meg's Gold class?



Maybe clearkote VM with my Collinite IW??



Just are just a few examples im throwing out there, as I do realize these may be wrong ideas, or that the items mixed wont be as effective as used seperately. THe main point im trying to get is, are these POSSIBLE effective ways to make a ONE STEP quick wax/glaze?? Something a little more then a QD could do but not having to go through cleaning, polishing, and waxing.



Im trying to find ways to use up the waxes/glazes/cleaners I have so I can buy new ones to try! :)



Any responses would be appreciated even if you are gonna make fun of me for my long post and corky ideas!







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Yeah, Ive caught the experiment bug from that post too. I think I'll go in the garage and melt some stuff together in a pot. Im thinking, EO A2Z, EF Tire Cleaner, AA Tire Dressing, Mothers Wheel Polish and a set of Hawk brake pads.



This way, I can do a brake job and complete wheel detail, all in one step...
 
I was also thinking about a good polish/wax one-step product. It would save me time during a detail. I was thinking about mixing UPP with either GEPC or #9. Or maybe even buy some UPC and mix a little of that with some UPP. That way I would have a good paint cleaner and good sealant in one step.
 
Groits Garage has something about mixing there hand polish with there Best of Show wax to make a cleaner wax .1/3 polish to 2/3 wax. Meguiars Color X is a super one step, as is Klasse AIO.
 
Not to be rude fellas but some of those are terrible ideas. Mixing a paint cleaner with a sealant would not work; they are acting as opposites to one aother and when combined will not both function independantly in the manner they are supposed to. I am not an expert in the field of industrial chemistry but I have taken a numerous amount of physical chem. and fluid dynamics classes in a Biochem/Biophysics major. You'll just be wasting time, money, and good useful products. Not to mention the fact that some products contain volatile substances not meant to be heated beyond critical temperatures, especially since you do not possess the proper glassware, thermometers, etc. This is not the case with all paste waxes but when the solvent smell is overwhelming like in some cleaners.sealats take some caution. The products above all serve a specific purpose and work wonderfully in their respective field, however they were not made to be mixed to function as one giant wash/SMR/polish/sealant combo, if it were possible to manufacture such a product there would be one.
 
Im not talking about melting anything. Im talking about glazes and waxes that are already in liquid form. Nothing will be heated. The examples I simply listed didnt contain any sealants either. I think that Meg's No7 show car glaze with Collinite is a viable mix that may OR may not work. Or No. 7 with any lquid wax for that matter. Im not making a GIANT One step product either. All the examples I listed are only a mix of two products, not a whole bunch to create a witch's brew.



The statement "if it were possible to manufacture such a product there would be one." kinda negates itself. There are already such products, Poorboys (sealant and carnuaba), Klasse AIO (cleanser, polish, sealant) Poorboys Polish with Carnuaba, Plexus (polish, cleaner, protectant in one). Qd's in general are glazes with either, wax, carnuaba, or sealants in them. If combination of products are questioned so much then the products I listed wouldnt exist.



I think my idea isnt any more crazy then Melting waxes together. Its really just a thought. Mix a liquid glaze with a liquid wax. Or a liquid paint cleanser with a liquid wax. I knew starting this thread i had to have my flame suit on :( jk





I just sharing my thought and asking other opinions.



MS22- I guess your response is not directed towards me, since in my first post I mentioned nothing of what you are talking about.



NozeBleedSpeed- lol mix an v-24 engine with a turbo, superchager, jet engine and nawwwz, then NXT to keep the ricer generation happy, then we might be talking about a serious one-step. :)



White95Max- "Or maybe even buy some UPC and mix a little of that with some UPP." That might be a good idea just to give a try. It would give the UPP 'slight cleaning properties. It might harm the durability of UPP but then again we are talking about short one-step solutions.



lawrencea- Your mention of griots kinda prove my point that it would be ok, especially if a manufacture is suggesting the mix. I have yet to try colorX, how would you compare it to AIO?



Anyone else care to share their thoughts about my first post?
 
Scottwax, or anyone for that matter, do you have any input for my thread.



I would try this out, but since my area is below 25 degress all day and with snow and slush on the ground, I would find it better if someone in more favorable weather try it. Or if anyone has done something similiar to share their thoughts.
 
01bluecls said:


I would try this out, but since my area is below 25 degress all day and with snow and slush on the ground, I would find it better if someone in more favorable weather try it.
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I'd love to help you, but I'm several hundred miles north of VA. :p



I was also only talking about mixing liquid products. If they can have cleaner waxes, why not cleaner-sealants? If I could find a decent product that could combine two of my steps, it would save me time and increase my profits.
 
I put together a 1 step product that is performing very well. It removes, cleans, and protects in an impressive manner. It has been 6 weeks since application. The paint still beads although it is difficult to measure results on a daily driver that is getting pounded with salt spray on a regular basis. Wash it one day and the next day it is covered again. Plus it is below zero here = no washing.



50% Collinite #845 IW

25% 4* UPC

25% HT-61 Light Cut SMR



All of the products carry a mineral spirit solvent, so I thought they would be alright. I far from a chemist. The consistency is right. It did a nice job on a mildly marred tailgate of a T&C with a rotary. Have not used it on anything else. Great for winter with weather constraints not allowing time that many need.



I plan on adding 25% UPP and reducing the 845 by 25%. Not sure if that is going to be a happy marriage.
 
Mixing a wax/sealant together with a polish is called a one step cleaner wax - they already exist.



I second the notice of care here - mixing dissimilar products (formulation wise) can have unintended results like explosion, dangerous gasses and possible paint damage.



I do like Noze Bleed's idea, though. I'm gonna get our chemists on it right away.
 
NozeBleedSpeed said:
Yeah, Ive caught the experiment bug from that post too. I think I'll go in the garage and melt some stuff together in a pot. Im thinking, EO A2Z, EF Tire Cleaner, AA Tire Dressing, Mothers Wheel Polish and a set of Hawk brake pads.



This way, I can do a brake job and complete wheel detail, all in one step...
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too effing funny!:lol :lol :rofl :lol :rofl
 
I thought that's the way Meguiar's, Turtle Wax and all the others got started in the first place....



Mixing stuff up in their bath tubs and pouring it into bottles.



Funny that those companies are the ones 'poo-pooing' these experiments. :nixweiss
 
wblynch said:
I thought that's the way Meguiar's, Turtle Wax and all the others got started in the first place....



Mixing stuff up in their bath tubs and pouring it into bottles.



Funny that those companies are the ones 'poo-pooing' these experiments. :nixweiss
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Well you have to understand that these people also knew exactly what they are combining and have a general knowledge of how much of this or that will give whatever result. "Which group on these combounds will link with eachother when they are put thinly and allowed to 'dry?'" I don't know many chemists that just pour things from bottles into a flask, put in a mixing wand and put it on a hot plate overnight and get their desired results.



Half the time the stuff we get from companies isn't even correctly labeled. :nixweiss



I have mixed sealants and cleaners and have recieved good looking results, but the durability was not there. My guess is that these products were designed to cure in different ways, and mixing a few and putting them on the car didn't allow any product the ability to cure fully. I think it is kind of nieve to think that these new sealants with good durability were made by chance.



Just because a product says it is a sealant doesn't mean it performs the same. There is much proof on this website alone that says a one step product will not funish the results that 3 individual products can.
 
Originally posted by NozeBleedSpeed

Yeah, Ive caught the experiment bug from that post too. I think I'll go in the garage and melt some stuff together in a pot. Im thinking, EO A2Z, EF Tire Cleaner, AA Tire Dressing, Mothers Wheel Polish and a set of Hawk brake pads.



This way, I can do a brake job and complete wheel detail, all in one step...



now that's funny





I think that all the big companies, with their multi-million dollar budgets have tried to make the perfect product, but as Corey said two or three products are always better than one, for now.





But you never know, 01bluecls give it a try and keep us posted.
 
Well even if i dont mix cleaner products like klasse AIO with Collinite IW, i think maybe that the Meg's No 7 show car glaze with another liquid wax will turn out well...I will try it as soon as the weather clears.
 
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