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MidNiteMysT

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hey, i recently had to start driving a lot more during the day time because of school and this dash is driving me crazy! the glare of this dash on sunny days onto my windshield is really distracting. i used armorall a while back, so thats probably why its glaring so badly. i cant even read the license plate of a car 2 feet away from the car. what can i do about this? is there a better, not as reflective product like megs #40 or something? i heard megs #40 made it more black without making it more reflective. i dont want to just remove the armorall on the dash cuz then it wont be protected and will fade.



what can i do?
 
I love #40. can't go wrong with it. won't have the shine of amour all, but you won't get the glare. also drys without be greasy.
 
Megs #40 and 303 Aerospace Protectant. These are my favorites for interior dressings. Not too much shine, no glare, non greasy. You mentioned not wanting the dash to fade. 303 has the best UV protection there is.
 
After applying the dressing and waiting a while, I would then buff off any residue. This way you will still have some protection, but there will be way less glare.
 
Give the dash a good wipedown with the Water/Woolite mix then retreat it with something like 303. As for UV protection in the products I'll post an interesting quote from Ron Ketcham who appears to know more than a little about some of these products.



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"303 has a higher resin content, the maximum that can be used, which is why it cost more.

Most of the mass marketed PDMS are usually around 18 to 20%, most professional dressings are between 22 and 27%.

Cost is an issue for professional detailers, and even the higher resin 303 does not last "that" much longer than a, say 24% content.

Just looks better for a couple of days.

The "UV" protectant adverstising is pure bunk, it is not possible to actually put "UV" blockers in these types of resins and if it could be done, the product would have to be marketed at about 3 to 4 times a higher price, as a UV components is very, very expensive.

The claim of "UV" protection comes from the resin barrier created and the additional shine, which reflects the damaging UV's.

The real advantage of using a PDMS is protection from the far more damaging ozone that is present. This protection is only there as long as the product is. "



303, Mequiar's, Eagle One (VW's product is Eagle One), etc these are water borne, Polydimetalsiloxane resin formula's, every last one of them.





The present ArmorAll only differs from many other PDMS dressings, (polydimethalsiloxane) by percentage of the resin mixed into the water that is it's carrier to the surface.

Be it Eagle One, Zanio, Mequiar's, Mother's, etc, all the "white-water based" dressings are PDMS.





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I just cant stand the smell of meg #40. Is there anything with those qualities but smells a little better. Megs consumer line dash board protectand (candy red bottle) is what i use. smells great but its a bit greasy..
 
1Z cockpit Premium is pretty good. No UV protection but smells pretty good and leaves a totally matte finish.

Theres another thread about this around here.
 
First perference IZ Tiefenpfleger. Second preference ( locally available too ) Meg Natural Shine. :up Dont forget to buff after applying it.
 
I have to go with IZ Tiefenpfleger and Poorboy's Natural Look. Both offer good UV protection and a minimum of glare. They are as matte as it gets for decent UV protection.



1Z Cockpit Premium is the ultimate matte product IMHO; however it does not as much UV protection. I use it as a weekly quick detailer for my non-leather interior parts and use IZ Tiefenpfleger or Poorboy's Natural Look once a month.
 
does megs #40 prevent fading and uv damage like 303? im not sure if i should get megs #40 or 303. ive heard a lot of good things about megs, i just wanna make sure its protecting my dash cuz it will be getting a lot of sunlight.
 
MidNiteMysT said:
does megs #40 prevent fading and uv damage like 303? im not sure if i should get megs #40 or 303. ive heard a lot of good things about megs, i just wanna make sure its protecting my dash cuz it will be getting a lot of sunlight.
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Megs #40

Many other products simply coat vinyl and rubber with shiny silicones. Meguiar’s remarkable alternative gives you professional results by penetrating and cleaning, while conditioning and protecting against UV damage. All while leaving a rich matte finish.



•Cleans the surface while restoring its original color

•Prevents fading, cracking and drying

•Avoids the typical synthetic shine of conventional protectants

•Contains UV protectants to extend life of vinyl and rubber
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MidNiteMysT said:
hey, i recently had to start driving a lot more during the day time because of school and this dash is driving me crazy! the glare of this dash on sunny days onto my windshield is really distracting. i used armorall a while back, so thats probably why its glaring so badly. i cant even read the license plate of a car 2 feet away from the car. what can i do about this? is there a better, not as reflective product like megs #40 or something? i heard megs #40 made it more black without making it more reflective. i dont want to just remove the armorall on the dash cuz then it wont be protected and will fade.



what can i do?
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These are what I use for glare:



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Maui Jim Polorized Sunglasses



They completely remove the glare from my dash as seen below:



Without:

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With:



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I never drive without them.
 
Take your pick:



1Z Cockpit Premium

IZ Tiefenpfleger

Poorboy's Natural Look

Megs #40

303



All leave a low to very low shine, which you can "matte-down" further by buffing with a MF. Use the search function if you want to read reviews and opinions on each product, most have been discussed at Autopia recently.
 
i got the megs #40. quick questions tho.



1. should i use my armorall dash cleaner wipes to get rid of the previous armorall dash protectant, then apply megs #40, or should i just apply megs #40 right away cuz it doesnt matter?



2. what applicator should i be using to apply this stuff? papertowel, terrycloth, foam?



3. how long do i wait to wipe the dash with a mf towel after i apply megs to get that more matte finish? and will that lower the uv protection or any other protection by doing that?
 
MidNiteMysT said:
i got the megs #40. quick questions tho.



1. should i use my armorall dash cleaner wipes to get rid of the previous armorall dash protectant, then apply megs #40, or should i just apply megs #40 right away cuz it doesnt matter?
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Just go straight to #40. If there is a TON of dressing on the dash right now, you could wipe off some of the excess with a terry cloth and then put #40 on. Otherwise go straight to #40.





2. what applicator should i be using to apply this stuff? papertowel, terrycloth, foam?
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I like using a terry cloth of some form. But it is just a personal preference.





3. how long do i wait to wipe the dash with a mf towel after i apply megs to get that more matte finish? and will that lower the uv protection or any other protection by doing that?
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You could try a couple hours... maybe even wait till tomorrow and buff off the excess. I'm not sure about the uv protection. I would think that it would remove some, but not all.
 
MidNiteMysT said:
i got the megs #40. quick questions tho.





3. how long do i wait to wipe the dash with a mf towel after i apply megs to get that more matte finish? and will that lower the uv protection or any other protection by doing that?
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I'll post you a little info given to me by Ron Ketcham re UV protection and the likes



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The "UV" protectant adverstising is pure bunk, it is not possible to actually put "UV" blockers in these types of resins and if it could be done, the product would have to be marketed at about 3 to 4 times a higher price, as a UV component is very, very expensive.

The claim of "UV" protection comes from the resin barrier created and the additional shine, which reflects the damaging UV's.

The real advantage of using a PDMS is protection from the far more damaging ozone that is present. This protection is only there as long as the product is.





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yea, i read that before. i guess what i should have said was "by removing some of the shine, will that make the uv's easier to penetrate and harm the dash since there not as much shine?" i think you know what i meant by taking away the uv protection by taking away the shine.



do most of you agree with dcswd?



p.s. i love how you guys give me such quick responses :) hopefully, ill be able to apply the #40 now cuz i dont want to deal with the glare tomorrow.
 
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