Compounds with Diminishing Abrasives...

Addicted2Bling

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Looking for a compound right now to use with my sexy new RUPES 21 MKII, YEEEEE HAAAAAW!!!!

Oh excuse me, sorry about that. But anyway I would like a compound that has a great amount of cut and leaves a decent amount of gloss with absolutely no fillers or silicone. What can anyone reccomend?

Right now Merenza 400 has caught my eye and so has M101, but the price has got me looking elsewhere. But I`m pretty sure it`s worth it. Does anyone know any other good compounds that fit this category?
 
The SSR`s all have diminishing abrasives .. depending on how abrasive 2.5 or 3 will both work
 
The SSR`s all have diminishing abrasives .. depending on how abrasive 2.5 or 3 will both work

AND, they smell great. Easy to work with. SMELL GREAT.

(I have a tendency to keep Rupes as a system, though, hence my post)


If I may ask, what pads would you suggest ??

I`ve had good experience using regular foam pads as you would other polishes. Lake County, Buff and Shine (for both, I used the foam, thin foam. Haven`t tried them with the newer offerings (HD, Long throw, etc)). For heavier cut, I`ve used Megs MF Cut Discs.
 
..Right now [I`ve considered].. M101, but the price has got me looking elsewhere. But I`m pretty sure it`s worth it.

I utterly *LOVE* M101, but it`s not a Diminishing Abrasive product (which, FWIW, is one of the things I like about it as IMO I can better control the work-time).
 
I loved working with M101 by hand. It`s the only compound that produced fast results just how I wanted.
 
I loved working with M101 by hand. It`s the only compound that produced fast results just how I wanted.

Yes indeed, works so well by hand that I actually give a little thought to how much clear it`s taking off. Game-changer for tight spots.

Eh, I`m currently on even more of a NONdiminishing Abrasive kick than usual as my good painter did that damage to the Jag by working the paint too long waiting for his Menzerna would break down (I work that paint for *seconds* at a time).
 
Can`t go wrong with Menzerna. I e used Wolfgang Uber compound, total swirl remover and finishing glaze- all derivatives of main Menzerna products and manufactured by Menzerna for PBMG.

Didnt much care for m101, haven`t used it THAT much but I could never get a great feel for it. Seems like it`s dried up when it hasn`t really. Just seems tricky from a consistency standpoint. I always had the temptation to spritz but then it turned into a splattery mess. Just never could find the sweet spot for how I wanted to work.

Ive found the Menzerna products to be more predictable in terms of how many passes I can get, and how they look and feel in relation to work time left, from a visual standpoint. Just easier to see how I`m doing that way, from my experience.

I like m205- versatile in cut and finish and can be worked all day if you want- but wouldn`t spend on m101 again ever.
 
I utterly *LOVE* M101, but it`s not a Diminishing Abrasive product (which, FWIW, is one of the things I like about it as IMO I can better control the work-time).


:P We are always on the same page about M101 (and FK1000P).




I second M101, but if I am feeling like I want to compound but with less cut, I`ll prime my pad with M205, two peas of M205, and two peas of M101 (or even less cut, UC). [Heavy polish would be this fluid combo and a less aggressive pad]

OP, here`s my $.02, and I have only been machine polishing for a couple of years now, but I can tackle anything that is thrown my way and within reason of clear coat preservation without using a depth gauge. Find a product manufacturer and stick with it, I started out with Meg`s UP/UC, and have grown my products since then. I currently have (fluid side):

Meg`s: M101, M105, M205, UC, UP, #9, #3, and #1 (barely ever need to use it)
PB`s: PWS, Black Hole, and Pro Polish
Carpro: Essence and Essence+

I started out detailing with Meguiar`s products and have since then, continued to explore their product range and find that they work for *me*. Sure, sometimes the products may become a little finicky, but mastering detailing means mastering your products. M105 drying up a little too quickly? Spritz of water four inches away from pad, get too much moisture and loose a bit of residue control? Alright, next time I`ll do a spritz about six inches away from the pad, much better. *Disclaimer* I have yet to really fall in love with M105, but my gosh, it CUTS.


Find a brand or product you like and begin to explore its usability, as in experiment with different grade pads.
 
I started out detailing with Meguiar`s products and have since then, continued to explore their product range and find that they work for *me*. Sure, sometimes the products may become a little finicky, but mastering detailing means mastering your products. M105 drying up a little too quickly? Spritz of water four inches away from pad, get too much moisture and loose a bit of residue control? Alright, next time I`ll do a spritz about six inches away from the pad, much better. *Disclaimer* I have yet to really fall in love with M105, but my gosh, it CUTS.


Find a brand or product you like and begin to explore its usability, as in experiment with different grade pads.

I`ve been using M105 for over 5 years now, and I feel like I`m going to get as good as I`ll ever be with it. It`s really easy to use and you can go fast with it, but I am looking for something better. I think i`m going to give M101 a shot, since I know so much about 105. Or maybe try Merenza 400 in the future.
 
Addicted2Bling- I too consider myself well dialed-in with M105, which always just clicked for me, right off the bat. But !Oh, man! do I like M101 better.

TheMeanGreen- These days my "compound with less cut" is HD Cut, though I`ll probably tried the 3D version or a Griots product if I ever use that up (which sure won`t be any time soon). I never got as much cut as I`d like with M105 though, even when I tweaked it by adding water. It was a great upgrade from what was available before, but still left me wanting more for those rare occasions that I`m actually removing significant marring.
 
jrock645- Heh heh, sounds like you and I are almost *exactly* the opposite on our preferences! This is a good time to be on either side of this particular fence, what with all the great stuff on the market these days.

Does [M101] dry up quick like M105? I think i might go this route

Not as fast, but that`s based on my *VERY* limited experience with it. I`m no real authority as I`ve only used it for spot-correction so far. Gee, I haven`t corrected a whole panel, let alone a whole vehicle, for ages....since before M101 came out.
 
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