Coating Frenzy?

Juan@Turbo Wax

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Is just me or there's actually a coating frenzy building up? I've seen in the last few months more and more companies coming into the market with some type of "Coating" and by now I'm having a hard time understanding how coat A is better than coat B :suspicious:anyone care to educate me;) Maybe a part 2 of the Teflon coating will also come back?
 
Yep, lots of new stuff coming around, which is great....but I sure would love to see credible evidence supporting the products claims. I haven't seen any real durability tests for anything other than Opticoat.
 
There are many coming to market. Soon there will be a laundry list to choose from just like waxes and sealants. If you look at like that the it's not surprising.



So far OG/OC is the only "permenent" coating.
 
I'm just afraid that this bandwagon is going to lead to tons of mediocre products. I for one am going to stick with OC until I see something that is without a doubt better/cheaper/more effective. I am not going to buy into any of the fluff until I see some peer reviewed products.
 
IHA Mark said:
I'm just afraid that this bandwagon is going to lead to tons of mediocre products. I for one am going to stick with OC until I see something that is without a doubt better/cheaper/more effective. I am not going to buy into any of the fluff until I see some peer reviewed products.



Exactly. Even worse products that push a quick wax to go with the "coating." Grab some Aquawax, your coating will "last" longer than car.
 
The thing is with these coatings is that they are easier to use the mainstream waxes and sealents. They last longer and it is gonna be a wave of the future. There are coatings that are claiming to be permanent outside of Opticoat, Opticoat is just the most popular. In other countries there out there. I for one are really loving them.
 
I had a guy drop off a sample of something called Ceracoat with he claims is a ceramic nano coating. It only lasts 8 months so my guess is its a sealant of some sort with all kinds of fancy marketing jargon to hype it up. Who knows though...I will try out the sample and see how it goes.
 
Coatings are a mixed bag-if a long lasting coating comes along at a cheap price you can be assured that manufacturers will apply it at the factory or dealerships will upsale it and detailers will lose business.
 
Juan@Turbo Wax said:
.... and by now I'm having a hard time understanding how coat A is better than coat B :suspicious:anyone care to educate me;) Maybe a part 2 of the Teflon coating will also come back?



Yes, there's a lot of new tag alongs, most of which are either inexperienced in the field or have found some "walmart" of coatings to churn out and relabel older tech without investing in any evolution of the technology. Of course their may also be some innovation buried among them.



A few of the variations you will likely find.



The sliding angle and contact angle will often vary

Some coatings peel off or chip

Some coatings are better than others with chemical resistance

Some last longer

Some yellow

Some are softer than the surface they were applied to

Some are difficult to apply

Some offer better scratch resistance

Some offer better heat resistance

Some are simply sealants

Some are full of it and like using fancy words





CarPro and Optimum are the two lines I have seen with proven coatings and multiple reviews and feedback. I tested them both side by side back when they came out. Both of them lasted up until I decided to polish the paint at which they were both removed of course. On another vehicle I tested them on both are still there to this day (more than two years later) however both sides of the vehicle don't look like they did in the beginning. Vehicle outside 24/7



There's 3 customers vehicles that I still see that CQ was applied to nearly two years ago and and a few between then and now. All of which are still beading and sheeting water very well.



A buddy of mine also has had CQ on his work truck over two years and tells me people still comment on it to this day. Because I speak with CarPro customers daily I hear a lot of feedback of these same stories from others as well.



As far as being permanent there is no such thing on this planet. Even clearcoat and paint is not permanent as we have all seen it eventually oxidize or peel off the vehicle if kept around long enough.



The most important step in any coating is the entire prep job from decon, to polish, to removal of all oils from the surface without replacing it with some byproduct of whatever cleaner your using.



An important thing to keep in mind is most customers that care enough to apply a coating will also polish their vehicle again within a couple years. At this time the coating will be removed.



A lot of people are just happy with seeing a car bead for as long as possible but coatings do things that are actually important for the paint. CQuartz, UK, and Finest, have been tested independently multiple times on many levels all the way up to scratch resistance which is improved beyond the original paint surface it was applied to. CQuartz really excels at how well it blocks rail dust, brake dust, industrial contamination, etc, from adhering to the paint. It literally blocks this stuff from getting to the paint and semi annual iron x treatments easily remove the iron without claying.



When you first prep the car you should clay also as there will be some things IX doesn't remove however after CQ is applied you'll be shocked how pointless clay becomes and how easily proper care removes the contaminants from the coating.
 
Juan@Turbo Wax said:
.... and by now I'm having a hard time understanding how coat A is better than coat B :suspicious:anyone care to educate me;) Maybe a part 2 of the Teflon coating will also come back?



Sorry, got carried away and didn't answer your question, lol



Yes, there's a lot of new tag alongs, most of which are either inexperienced in the field or have found some "turtle wax" of coatings to churn out and relabel without investing in continuous evolution of the technology. Of course their may also be some innovation buried among them.



A few of the variations you will likely find.



The sliding angle and contact angle will often vary

Some coatings peel off or chip

Some coatings are better than others with chemical resistance

Some last longer

Some yellow

Some are softer than the surface they were applied to

Some are difficult to apply

Some offer better scratch resistance

Some offer better heat resistance

Some are simply sealants

Some are full of it and like using fancy words
 
Well said! I am contemplating what coating to put on the Bimmer. After years of following reviews for these things, its time to get into the present. Its just hard to convince tradition to change. People still say ONR sucks...pff.
 
"Coating"sure is the new buzz word these days. Even basic paint sealants are sliding in this terminology to describe their product. No wonder why so many people are confused.
 
David Fermani said:
"Coating"sure is the new buzz word these days. Even basic paint sealants are sliding in this terminology to describe their product. No wonder why so many people are confused.



True, I think some companies like the confusion though and market accordingly.
 
Oh, for sure. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before certain resellers incorporate that buzz word into all their product descriptions like they already have with "UV" and "Nano".
 
I would hazard to say that the majority of 'nano' products have nothing to do with nanotechnology and are actually nothing more than chemical coatings. Unfortunately... the detailing crowd has been buying into this for some time so people are trying to milk it. There are numerous blatant lies told by 'manufacturers' (notably that they are the actual manufacturer!) and I suspect that much of it comes from the increasing number of sellers who are chemical newbies and have no idea that they are getting it totally wrong.



As far as the number of supposed products out there... as I say, detailers who have google and want to cash in. There are numerous protective coatings available out there (not necessarily automotive specific, but quite usable) and they are purchased and repackaged under any number of names.
 
Welcome to Autopia PiPUK! I agree with alot of what you say. Alort of people are trying to cash in by using names to market their products as something that they're not. For everyone 1 person who can see through this BS, there are 100,000 who could either not care, not know the difference or not believe they realists.
 
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