Have yet to meet a CG's wash I don't like. Citrus Wash is by far my favorite. They have some good ones and some better ones and then some really good ones. My two favorites are Citrus Wash and Extreme Body wash and Synthetic Wax/Gloss Enhancer Shampoo. Both of the ones I mentioned as favorites have great lubricity and suds that last well past the end of the wash. Wish I could compare to Griots for you but when I found these the looking stopped.