In the last couple of days, I have had the opportunity to reconfirm the fact that selling a car will turn even the most honest, nice people into something evil and malicious! After the insurance trolls totaled my '99 CRV, I began my quest for a replacement. I have been lied to, treated like an idiot and just plain disrespected by dealers, salesmen and even a private party. Best one yet was the CRV that was the family's favorite and being sold only to help defray tuition costs for the daughter's schooling. I was in "MINT" condition, a beautiful blue, "looks and runs great". My son-in-law (Honda body shop manager) and I arrive at the scene of the crime. Owner, mid-40's in very nice neighborhood proceeds to show off "his baby". Most vicious hail damage I've ever seen. Air bag light stays on but he assured us that it was just a wiring problem. Wanna drive her? Just slouch down in the seat a bit so you can see past the horizontal crack running the full length of the windshied at eye level. The driver's side rear door has to be pushed open from the inside because the kiddies have slammed the door on the seat belt buckles so hard that the door jam is pocked like the surface of the moon. Also, please stay on the side streets because the front tires need replacing due to cords hanging out. Start her up, but don't breath too deeply and keep the extinguisher handy in case the oil leaking everywhere under the hood catches on fire! Jeez, I swear, if I ever lied to anyone so badly, I fear they would kick my a..s. And don't even get me started on the badly repaired, hail damaged, roll-over accidents that the dealers have shown me, all priced at least a grand above NADA & Blue Book to add a bit of haggle factor in. My wife's cousin is going to check out another "cream puff" for me tomorrow (it's 300 miles away). I can afford a new car, but I'm on strike against the highway robbers that insure my 4 cars. My goal is the get all my cars to the age that will require only liability insurance - that'll teach em! It's gonna be a long search for a decent CRV I fear...