Calling pros that use Dewalt dw849

Knight

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I have read the Sticky note. As some of you may know that I am in the process of buying all new tools. The first set of stuff I bought was MF towels, OXO wheel and tire brushes( I love them), and eagle one tire scrubber pole. Now for the bad boy. I am for sure getting the Dewalt DW849. The problem is I do not know exactly what I need for attachements etc. If anyone knows a link for the DW 849 at a cheap price, please post it. Also, I want to go with 3M supplies and I am not sure what backing plate is required. I would appreciate it if some of you pros with the tool could give me direct links to prices so I can buy the right tool and such.





Any questions you have that you are wondering I will answer....





Thanks for the help



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Just do a google search on the Dewalt DW849. That should yield a ton of information.



Both Meguiars and 3M make a wide selection of pads.



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Edit: Google search yielded 448 results, many of them listing the price along with the url. Lowest price I saw was $189 on the first 10 hits.
 
I am not wondering about pads and products for now. I just want the main unit and its compoents using 3M. I have already found a link for the unit itself. Thanks. I just need a direct link on which backing plate and attachment I need for usage on the pads( 3M). I believe there are several plates and things you can get. Not sure which is better or anything. I believe some pads require a different attachment and there are different backing plates.

I hope this clears up exactly what I am asking for.







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Looks like I am buying the Dewalt brand new for 174 dollars tomarrow. Thank you for saving me 10 or 20 dollars.

Does anyone have a clue on the 3M questions? Backing plate, attachments, etc?





Thanks again





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I use a Meguiars backing plate on my DeWalt with 3M pads, no "attachments" were needed. It fit directly on the arbor spindle with no problems.
 
http://www21.3m.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.E...=&S3=&S4=&S5=&DSP=0&CUR=840&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=0





There are so many, I am not sure which one is right. Notice you need a special adaptor for certain buffing pads(superbuff). Also they got all kinds of backing plates, which one. ahhhhh



I saw their video and want to use their pads showroom. Do you have the same? The 5725, 5703, 5704, 5705, 5723



http://www21.3m.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.E...=&S3=&S4=&S5=&DSP=0&CUR=840&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=0



http://www21.3m.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.E...=&S3=&S4=&S5=&DSP=0&CUR=840&PGRP=0&CACHE_ID=0







In any event if you guys could tell me which backing plate to get and such I would appreciate it. I hope these links help.





Thanks guys











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No one wants to take this one on? It is very important to me that I buy the right things and not waste money. I am calling the pros that use this tool for a lil help and their superior guidance. I have already speant 130 dollars on MF towels, wheel brush, tire brush, wheel pole scrubbber ( all at CMA), along with various totes and bins to hold my detailing stuff in. These were all bought and I am VERY happy with the results after carefully consulting with you guys on these objects. This part is always the hardest. Finding tools at good prices and buying them and having an entire detailing collection or close to. I am at this process right now and hate it cause I want to get going so BAD. I know your guys time is limited and not everyone visits this place every day like me.





So thank you for the help so far. Anything else would be greatly appreciated.





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Knight said:
I have read the Sticky note. As some of you may know that I am in the process of buying all new tools. The first set of stuff I bought was MF towels, OXO wheel and tire brushes( I love them), and eagle one tire scrubber pole. Now for the bad boy. I am for sure getting the Dewalt DW849. The problem is I do not know exactly what I need for attachements etc. If anyone knows a link for the DW 849 at a cheap price, please post it. Also, I want to go with 3M supplies and I am not sure what backing plate is required. I would appreciate it if some of you pros with the tool could give me direct links to prices so I can buy the right tool and such.





Any questions you have that you are wondering I will answer....



If I may suggest before you go ahead nd buy the Dewalt you try the new Makita. It has a different feel but it is definitely more versatile than the Dewalt (I know as I have had over 10 Dewalts and Black and Deckers). The advantage to the Makita is it's ability to buff at as little as 600-3000 rpm as opposed to the Dewalt which can only do 1000-3000 rpm. It makes a big difference for fine polishing and swirl removal. I still have 3 Dewalts along with the Makita but if I had to choose only one I think it would be the Makita.





Thanks for the help



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Knight,

I guess I'm confused.



In your first post you asked about where to get the 849 from.



Then you asked about the pads/compounds/polishes. The only thing I noticed from the 3M link I provided is you have to buy the foam pads in cases. How many do you need?



To recap I have the 849, 3m Fine cut compound, 3M SMR, Yellow and White Finger Foam Pads and Viper MF towels. Everything was purchased through CMA. Topped my car with Zaino and I'm very happy. I did a friends silver car this past friday with the same process and it came out great!





Do you need help with the Pads? Compounds? Have you tried calling CMA?

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Check all my links above. I need the 3M backing plate and possible accesory for the 3M pads. Here let me try to be more clear.

I want a 3M backing plate and I posted a link not sure which one.

I want 3M polishing and compounding pads.

I will be using their polishes as well.

If you check my links above there is one that shows all the backing plates and the "adaptor" for special pads. Since I want to use 3M pads, I MIGHT need this adaptor, but I am not sure.

Some of those questions were directed to SHOWROOMLINCOLN, because he uses the 3M pads and Dewalt849. The only difference is that while he uses a meguiars backing plate I want a 3M one. Since he uses 3M pads he might know which backing plate is right for the dewalt and the pads and such. I hope this clear any confusion up what I am looking/asking for?





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ShineShop,



You just threw me a curve ball! Though not as big a problem it seems as getting the right backing plate from 3M and such. First, Which is cheaper? You have a dewalt849 and a makita 9227? And you would choose the Makita 100% of the time over the dewalt? So in order to do a finer polish( remove minuscule swirls and scratches) you must go slower in RPMS, am I correct? If that is true then the Makita wins, unless it is too expensive. Would all pros agree that is the case about the speed?

Shineshop do you do detailing as a business?

Just wanted to add that I found the 9227 for a dollar more on ebay than the dewalt. Price is no concern anymore.



Thanks for the curve ball though don't want to make a mistake.





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Knight said:
ShineShop,



You just threw me a curve ball! Though not as big a problem it seems as getting the right backing plate from 3M and such. First, Which is cheaper? You have a dewalt849 and a makita 9227? And you would choose the Makita 100% of the time over the dewalt? So in order to do a finer polish( remove minuscule swirls and scratches) you must go slower in RPMS, am I correct? If that is true then the Makita wins, unless it is too expensive. Would all pros agree that is the case about the speed?

Shineshop do you do detailing as a business?

Just wanted to add that I found the 9227 for a dollar more on ebay than the dewalt. Price is no concern anymore.



Thanks for the curve ball though don't want to make a mistake.





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In my area I can get either buffer for around $280 CDN which isn't bad. As for polishing as slower speeds, yes slower is better for fine polishing. As for how slow depends on what works for you in a given situation. I usually remove swirls by polishing at 1000-1200 rpm with the finest polish available. Some darker cars that I really want to go the extra mile on I will buff at 600-1000 rpm and find it adds depth for greater shine. As for which is better, that again will depend on who you talk to. As I stated I have owned over 10 Black & Decker (since renamed as Dewalt) and have found them to be a real workhorse in terms of quality and reliability. I only even tried the Makita because I needed a spare while one of the Dewalts was out for service and it was the loaner I got. I didn't like the handle on the Makita at first but now prefer it to the Dewalt. Also, the Makita is geared differently so it builds speed after you squeeze the trigger as opposed to the Dewalt which almost immediately spins at the rpm you have set. It's just little differences but when you use it for hours on end every day it really makes a big difference. I am lucky enough to have both and yes I now choose the Makita over the Dewalt but everyone is different in their preferences. Yes I am a professional detailer and my website is www.shineshop.ca. Good luck with the new buffer whichever you decide on and remember to keep the speed down - never more than 1750 rpm.
 
Knight said:
ShineShop,



You just threw me a curve ball! Though not as big a problem it seems as getting the right backing plate from 3M and such. First, Which is cheaper? You have a dewalt849 and a makita 9227? And you would choose the Makita 100% of the time over the dewalt? So in order to do a finer polish( remove minuscule swirls and scratches) you must go slower in RPMS, am I correct? If that is true then the Makita wins, unless it is too expensive. Would all pros agree that is the case about the speed?

Shineshop do you do detailing as a business?

Just wanted to add that I found the 9227 for a dollar more on ebay than the dewalt. Price is no concern anymore.



Thanks for the curve ball though don't want to make a mistake.





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The thing about the speed is true, but remember the DeWalt has a variable trigger. You can polish at a speed lower than 1000 RPM's just by easing up on the trigger a little bit.



9 times out of 10 you will see the Makita for slightly less $ than the DeWalt. You should take your time in deciding which unit you are going to purchase. You seem a little unsure. Milwaukee also makes a nice high quality buffer.



If you do a search for "DeWalt Makita" You will find some advantages and disadvantages of each machine.



Shineshop is well experienced with both machines in his shop, so his opinion should probably weigh heavier than others.
 
Please, I am just going to do this for others that need a good post to possibly help them decide and myself as well. The Dewalt 489 and Makita 9227. Some facts here, let me know if they are correct or incorrect? I am being critical. So please, anyone that does not like this sort of thing please do not continue past this sentence. Others can enjoy.



Dewalt DW849- Heavy-duty, built to last. It shows the actual speeds, RPM on handle. 1000-3000 RPM. Weighs over eight pounds. Handle stick on side as traditional buffers and sanders. Price on ebay approx. 175.



Makita 9227- Built to last? Has anyones Makita 9227 buffer broke? Is there one case on this forum where one has broke? I am skeptical that they break or are not made just as sturdy as the DW? I have not found one thread that someone said theirs broke. Do the dials 1-? represent an actual rpm that can be looked up in the manual that comes with buffer? If so, I don't believe there can be much said about the dewalt having the RPMS listed, as long as the Makita posts it somewhere... Also I have noticed that everyone agrees the max speed someone should go on a buffer is about 1750 RPM. If that is true amongst you Pros, then that would mean some of the dewalts settings would be useless? Being the difference in RPMS for the dewalt is 750, while the Makita is 1150 RPMS. ( AKA more settings to use ) The makita does not speed up right away which might be of some use for splatter and control. Not saying it is, but it could be. The makita only ways 6.6 approx. A difference of approx three pounds lighter. The handle on the buffer is different. Though, it might make more sense to have it in the middle since the pad must stay flat. Probably a personal preference.

Price on ebay 176 dollars.



Now, how many settings does the dewalt have on it... 1-6? 1-3? How many does the Makitta have, and besides these questions and the ones above which is newer to the industry?



Here is where I am going to be critical, please take no offense this is just to get it straight in my head and try to reason through this. I took your guys advice on doing a search and learned a bit about each buffer. I took shineshops advice on maybe giving the makita a look at. His preference is a factor because he has both, and being a pro chooses the makita over the DW 100% of the time. Thank you for the input autopians. I thought for sure I was getting the dewalt until the curve and I am pretty sure I am going with the Makitta now. Here is why,I am going to sum it all up so other people can try and get a feel for it in this post.



The Makitta I believe is newer to the industry. This might mean that it has better technology. It weighs a bit less. Why would I get a DW that weighs more and fatigues me. While DW claims it is well built. Which I believe it is! I also believe ( not sure will wait for posts ) the makitta is just as well built. I have not seen anything except claims that the makitta is weaker and more prone to break compared to the DW. Assuming 1750 is the max one should go when buffing, the Makitta easily takes the DW because the DW starts at 1000 while the makitta at 600. If slower RPMS result in a finer finish? then why would I want anything less than the best? The DW does not have these settings, you might be able to guess on the trigger but who knows. The increasing speed is something that the DW does not have and might be a nice plus, as well as the handle.

That is it, fellow pro - autopian friends.

I would appreciate some responses on my questions and any thoughts, because it took me a while to write this. LOL





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While it may be true that the DW weighs more I would have to disagree with your statement that it will fatigue you more. I have the DW and it is a well balanced unit. I have yet to have it cause me any fatigue.



Also just because the Makita is newer doesn't mean that the technolgy is better. One could argue that since the DW has been around for a few years, that it has had any bugs worked out and because of this, it has the better technolgy.



I don't think you can go wrong with either choice. Ultimately it would be good if you could see and handle each of the units before buying, Then you could make your decision on how each one feels to you (weight, comfort, size...etc) instead of basing your decsion on how someone else (that you don't know) feels about the comfort of either brand.



To me the speed is not an issue. 99% of the time I use the buffer between 1200 and 1900. If I do need to go lower than 1000 I just don't squeeze the trigger as much. That way I can get down to 50 rpm if needed.



Good luck with your purchase. You can't go wrong with either one.



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While it may be true that the DW weighs more I would have to disagree with your statement that it will fatigue you more. I have the DW and it is a well balanced unit. I have yet to have it cause me any fatigue.

Very good point my friend. Though is the Makita well balanced? Good thoughts.

Also just because the Makita is newer doesn't mean that the technolgy is better. One could argue that since the DW has been around for a few years, that it has had the bugs worked out and because of this, it has the better technolgy.

That is true, just like your last statement. I am sure you would agree though that as newer products come out they keep getting better eventually?

Then you could make your decision on how each one feels to you (weight, comfort, size...etc)

Agreed that would be a good plan.

Thank you very much for the input I appreciate every bit.







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