CAlled Meguiars tech line--Megs said NXT2.0 is their longest lasting wax!

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deserttoy

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Need an opinion. Can microfiber clothes be reused if they hit the ground? I was planning on washing before reuse. Do these trap grit in them? I hate to throw out a new towel!::(
 
Really depends on what the ground was like. If wood chips or something Give it to the dog for a chew toy.



You could try to clean it. Shake the snot out of it. Look at it with magnifying glass and get some tweezers and pluck out what you see. Rinse it in water several times. Wash it several times.



If you do not truct it then mark this MF for tires or even fender wells only or some other area that does not scratch easily.



Good Luck!
 
Do a quick search so you can get the all the info on it but simply you rub the towel on a CD-r Preferable one you do not wanna use anymore. And you see if scratches. Some rub a bunch of time with different pressures.



It tells you the relative harshness of different towels with respect to one another. It is not a perfect test but pretty good.



Check it out.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Guess My Name [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Do a quick search so you can get the all the info on it but simply you rub the towel on a CD-r Preferable one you do not wanna use anymore. And you see if scratches. Some rub a bunch of time with different pressures.

It tells you the relative harshness of different towels with respect to one another. It is not a perfect test but pretty good.

Check it out. [/b]</blockquote>
I love to use those free AOL cd's for that test...... I get them with my computer mags, and sometimes when Im at office max I grab 2 or 3 from their 'take one free' bin..... just incase I get clumbsy... :xyxthumbs :D
 
Also that 2.0 is not a cleaner wax--just a pure wax--thats what tech line said anyway--anyone have issues with the info they get from the call center? i thought their sealant 20 or 21 would last longer than the syn wax (NXT2.0)
 
PAD2010 said:
Also that 2.0 is not a cleaner wax--just a pure wax--thats what tech line said anyway--anyone have issues with the info they get from the call center? i thought their sealant 20 or 21 would last longer than the syn wax (NXT2.0)
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NXT 2.0 is a synthetic sealant. #20 is categorized as a cleaner wax, but it's protective properties are synthetic. Who did you talk to on the tech line?


http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=372862
 
RustyBumper said:
Rasky, have you tried it yet? How does it compare to the Gold Class wax?
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Nope. I was just agreeing with 01GreyStangGT, as that was the information posted by Stoops on MOL. ;)

I would like to try it but I've honestly lost some interest in waxes/sealant lately with all the different coating that are available now. :smile:
 
I'm just getting back onto this site since the spring is coming up and this will be my first chime-in. I used Meg's NXT on my wife's Accord, it went down easy but I just didn't see it in the final result. I haven't tried Ultimate Wax and I moved away from cleaner waxes long ago.
 
PAD2010 said:
Also that 2.0 is not a cleaner wax--just a pure wax--thats what tech line said anyway--anyone have issues with the info they get from the call center? i thought their sealant 20 or 21 would last longer than the syn wax (NXT2.0)
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I believe, now that it is released, Meguiar's is offically toting Ultimate Wax as their longest lasting LSP.

When the first NXT was released it was first called their longest lasting wax, but then the marketing was switched to their best protecting wax (IRC) after many people had issues with the durability.

I believe NXT 2.0 was changed and many people reported that the durability was in fact increased (perhaps dramatically). I only tried the M21 2.0 (very similar to NXT) I found that it seemed to last longer than the original version, but can't qualify how much because I got decent durability from the original M21.

As far as NXT being a cleaner wax vs. not being a clear wax, I think it going to come down to how exactly we define the term cleaner.

Meguiar's uses the term 'cleaner' (in terms of paint care) to represent something that is going to use abrasives (polishing agents) to remove material. Meguiar's 'cleaner/waxes' are measurably abrasives (although VERY mild).

Also, pretty much all consumer level LSP's are going to have some level of cleaners (whether chemical or abrasive) in them. This is because the average person doesn't clean their paint properly and believes that proper car care includes washing once a month and throwing on a coat of wax once a year. The wax has to have some cleaning agent in order to adhere to the paint's surface, otherwise the consumer would have a bad result and likely blame the wax company.

And since we (as educated consumers) know that only a small amount of the shine actually comes from the wax (the rest is in the prep) it only makes sense to have a wax that features some cleaning ability. It's perspective...

Average guy: Applies wax to his dulled (stained) paint. The wax cleans the surface and the car looks great. Average guy thinks, wow this wax just made this car look shiny, great stuff!

Educated consumer: Apply wax to his dulled (stained) paint. Car looks clean and fresh. Instead of thinking what a great wax this the consumer thinks, wow this wax has some pretty strong cleaners, cool.

Compared to targeted cleaner/waxes NXT is very mild, and for the average consumer, it is a pure wax.
 
PAD2010 said:
Also that 2.0 is not a cleaner wax--just a pure wax--thats what tech line said anyway--anyone have issues with the info they get from the call center? i thought their sealant 20 or 21 would last longer than the syn wax (NXT2.0)
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With the exception of our new Ultimate Wax now being our best protecting, longest lasting wax, all of the above is true. I have no idea where the notion that NXT 2.0 is a cleaner wax comes from, other than someone, somewhere, reading the MSDS and seeing an ingredient that can be used as a "cleaner" in a cleaner wax. What that MSDS fails to tell you, however, is how that ingredient is used, how it works with other ingredients, etc. So if you're buying NXT 2.0 expecting to be getting a cleaner wax, you're going to be a bit disappointed. In reality, you're likely to get more cleaning ability from the applicator you apply NXT 2.0 with than from the product itself. It's actually more of a "polish/wax" to be honest.

M20 can be classed as a cleaner wax, though it isn't terribly potent in that regard. It's also a carnauba/synthetic blend, so it's longevity is not going to rival NXT 2.0 or M21, both of which are fully synthetic. M21 has been referred to by some as the "pro version of NXT" and that's really not too far off - you can apply M21 with a rotary buffer if you so choose, NXT not so much. It's maybe a fine distinction, but it is there. Longevity differences between M21 and NXT 2.0? Close enough to call it even.
 
thanks todd and mike for helping clear this up!

since i started using nxt2.0 i just needed to get it straight in my head what i was dealing with --since i better understand the marketing behind consumer and pro lines of megs sealants and waxes and why they are described a certain way and who the products main user is weekender or detailer. Im better on certain google searches-- i need to check the date on the chat that i am reading--it could be 4,6 or 8 yrs old! really appreciate the input -- it had been over a month since this thread had a response--thanks again - Paul:Dancing Dot:
 
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