BMW M3 detail by KC (a full spas treatment for engine & interior)

[vettefan67]

I've been exploring the different options of what to use on the faded black lower trim of my car. I read the old threads about it and found a lot of conflicting information:

Mothers Back to Black- Some say it is a dye, the package says it is a cleaner. This is a white liquid, very low viscosity. A white product dyes trim black? I have seen a number of people say they liked this product and it worked well, a few others say it only lasted a week or degraded their plastic over time. Which is it?

Black Again Trim Restorer- For those of you who have tried the <strong class='bbc'>new[/b] formulation of this, how long does it last between applications?

303- I've heard decent reviews of this, I'm testing it out right now. My problem is the trim is somewhat faded and hazy looking. It is unpainted black plastic.


I would really appreciate it if anyone can post about the results of long term usage of any product of this type.

I've been leaning toward using Back to Black to clean and 303 to protect, but I am wondering if Back to Black is a true cleaner/haze remover as it says. Can anyone share experience? Drawbacks or advantages to any products?

I'm hoping a bunch of people will recognize a specific product so I can be confident it is safe to use it on my baby

Thanks,
Justin

 

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I have been pretty happy with zaino z-16 for the rubber and plastic trim on my vehicles but they are relatively new and in good condition. 303 works well too.

 

[JonB]

Another :up for Z-16 on trim and tires. The sun is out and after I wash my other car, I will get some pics.



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[rstype]

My favorite product for vinyl or rubber black trim is Zaino Z-16 and 303 Aerospace Protectant. If you are using Klasse or Zaino already, you may also use Z-2 or AIO/SG on any black, smooth plastic parts. It darkens without a shine, and lasts a long time.

 

[YoSteve]

BW, finally! someone that uses Klasse on black plastic trim besides me. I thought I was the only one at I know it works on your car too. puterbum, maybe you should order your stuff in two waves. Get Klasse and a bunch of stuff, try it out on your bumpers, and then get the black product you need and order a second bunch of stuff to space it out. The Klasse can be time consuming anyways so don't think that ordering twice will slow you down. hth-steve

 

[vettefan67]

Thanks for the responses, guys! A couple more questions--



How glossy are the products you mentioned? How long do they last before you find yourself having to reapply them?

 

[rstype]

Klasse AIO and Zaino Z-2: One coat on smooth surfaces leave a like-new condition. No added shine, just darker. I tried Klasse AIO 2 months ago on the trim and Zaino 3 weeks ago on the trim and it sill beads very nicely.



303 Aerospace Protectant and Zaino Z-16 both left a shine on the trim when applied, but dried with a matte finish. They both lasted about 3 weeks, but sometimes streaked when it rained.



I preper the Klasse AIO and Zaino Z-2 over the two dressings because of its durabilty and ease of use. The two dressings were very watery and they were both hard to have an even coverage.

 

[Glozz]

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >

<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by BW [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>My favorite product for vinyl or rubber black trim is Zaino Z-16 and 303 Aerospace Protectant. If you are using Klasse or Zaino already, you may also use Z-2 or AIO/SG on any black, smooth plastic parts. It darkens without a shine, and lasts a long time. [/b]</blockquote>
When I first got my 330i I was told by my distributor to put the Z-1 and then Z-2 on all the exterior black trim and I'd never have to worry about white chalky deposits, or faded black trim in the future.

I've done so and the Z-2 works great at keeping the trim clean and looking new. I also use the Z-16 on the motor covers in the engine compartment. They look clean enough to eat off of. I have yet to use anything better in regards to getting black to look black and clean!

 

[dsl4evr]

I just put on klasse for the first time this morning.It went on great and looks really nice now.The test is how it will look when i get back from my road trip to Colorado and back this week.

 

[forrest@mothers]

is a trim dressing. It is NOT a dye.



It has some cleaning ability to it (primarily for oxidation of the plastic/rubber, and to some extent, wax or polish residue).



It is not a one time cure-all, it's to be used on a regular basis for dressing the trim.



We're working on an update to the formula, as some manufacturers (DC, primarily) have slightly changed their trim composition, and we don't like the way it looks after applying the product.



I hope this helps.

 

[imported_Haylo75]

I recently purchased and used Black Again on a 7 year old ill-maintained vehicle. I'm not sure of the chemical makeup or long term effects, however the product goes on and stays very oily and attracts a lot of dust. I don't like either of those properties, so I doubt I will use the product again. My .02

 

[dengelson]

I used the Mother's Back To Black on our 96 Plymouth minivan. It has a dark green plastic (non painted) front and rear bumper plus 4" strips of this plastic down both sides. The car has never been in a garage and the plastic looked really dull again. The BTB applied quickly and smoothly with a round foam applicator and it looked great. It looked better than the Maguiar's #40 Vinyl/Leather Cleaner/Dressing that I have use in the past. Unfortunately the day after applying the BTB it rained. This made the plastic look terrible, it was really patchy looking. Some areas weathered the rain ok without much fade an other spots were completely faded out again.



I'm going to keep at it with this product while the bottle lasts because when its right it looks great. Also I think that I should have worked more at cleaning the plastic with this product the first time rather than just applying it. The results would probably last longer with a more thorough cleaning. That said though even without the cleaning the first coat looked great until it rained.

 

[Langley Interior Car Kare]

covered in 303 for protection....unfortunately it does come out very matte in appearance....i kinda like it that way though...both these last a really long time as you can imagine....i used the back to black on my moms lower trim...it only lasted about 3 wks...so...i dont know if thats long enough for you....BTW....i never used the 303 on top of it with my moms...so maybe...if you used it and then covered with 303 like u said u were going to...the protection would keep it balck for longer.....either way.....my moms trim was really horrible...not scraped up...just really faded...and the BTB definitely got it black again....just the endurance i didnt like...hope that helps.....

 

[kc's]

a full interior detail on this rare & exotic E46 M3,,

I have also chk with my Friend who is a tech adv auto bavaria, he has not seen any of this convertables that comes with BMW hand phone... truly rare indeed ...LOOK LIKE THE bOND MOVIE

with a gratitude to the onwer & his generousity....


upon arrival... great looking M powered performance

unavoidable swirls from car wash

I wash with ONR no rinse wash & show how quick & fast & well....to wash yr car yrself after this detailing.....otherwise my heart work will be furtile

engine pics before
not too bad from a distance

but.........................
some close up engine pics before pi

pics before

water duct ...pics before

minor scratch on this dear gruppe M serial nos 01-0116, kelvar intake duct

fume & smoked stains beneath the underhood has been vey sore & heart broken to her lover

more


stains & smoke
pics before

work began...........................
before pics

mpc aggitating & BRUSHING OFF WITH SOFT round brushes....rubberised handle to prevemt scratching to the paint


rinsing off with Optimum No rinse wash (ONR) diluting 2 ounce per 600 ml water to wash down the MPC residue.& wipe off....conserve water ...& needn't water hosing ..wetting & trouble...as i have another state of the art steam pressure cleaning....

sound like dry wash

50/50 comparrision pic

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after surface above contaimination cleaning....there is stain beneath the paint that need to be remove....Next...I applied PRC 151 ..my favourite AIO product to remove these stains

tada

another section near the front grill section...




MPC at work & brushoff

shing off..to remove paint above contamintion

contamination beneath the paint...cannot bve removed with just cleaners..

rinsing off again with Optimum No rinse wash (ONR) diluting 2 ounce per 600 ml water to wash down the MPC residue.& wipe off....conserve water ...& needn't water hosing ..wetting & trouble...2nd cleaning & aggitating with less corossive substance.....ecological steam pressure cleaning....process


ladies & gentlemen.... steam cleaning in process

ta da
a steamed clean bay now

Next...I applied PRC 151 ..my favourite AIO product to remove these stains

the paint now...is clean & protected

remember before
pics before

now

there is no reason to treat yr engine with abrasive cleaners...when there is a better way to clean it...Wheel brightener, degresser...super degresser...more industrial cleaners...they are not easy to applied...but to me safety cannot be compromised...me still a very conservative person...health comes 1st

No doubt the job will done fast...& look well....but is it the best available method for yr preformance engine...esp this M power 380 bhp engine....

..some manufacture company wil suggest....try the least aggressive method 1st.then progress..to me the least ...is not getting a stronger or a more corrossive substance...but getting the job done in another method...eg streamer to loose out the grim & grease that was build up...I am fortunate to live in this age of technology advancement time

by the way this intake duct cost 8K...it was designed to draw pure cold air to this M powered engine

after detail pics

complete the same process for the entire engine bay
pics after steaming ....before dressing

before pics

after steamed clean pics

Rest of the pics
same process for the M 3 grills

side steps cleaning

side steps

electronic seats button

by now u might be wondering the pool of water residue ..there is only a minimal amount of water drops as the steam get evaporated...faster than u see...buff off with Microfibers

pics after

u can even aggitate & loose caked brake dust...by steaming it

interior detailing & steaming process

only exotics have no spare tyre & a dc powered air pump...that suppose to last u another 20-30 km to the nearest repair shop similiary the last ferrari i detail

inbuild GPS....it was the state of art machine when i build 7 years ago

as i was talking with one of my fellow detailer...who happend to applied the interior car fumigation...& it is a sprayed chemical..suppose to kill all bacteria & insects...it will aggitated under hot sun...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm..now i have a better solutions...steam it away...why do we risk breathing the chemical inside...i dont need more toxic world, which i dont need more from any one....do u resolve one but threathing another??????


cd changer

i open a can of worms....spilled oil & dirt tha was swept beneath the carpet

oil stain was wipe away ,,,onr ....rinseless wash & steam away for good

tools was also detail & steamed

the entire boot was steamed & detail

even this

 

[kc's]

part 2

sorry to make u sleepy....as I always intend to bring u to where I was ...leading you thru step by step...my encounters...as leaving a trails & a charted course for you to do better

making this rare

i wonder any technician here are trained to service this....BMW mobile

it was also detail & steamed






removing the hard top prior interior detailig

few facts u need to know...& take note of

u cant remove it alone - too heavy & large to handle

very dear - u can buy a viva

once remove the car look very sexy & sleek

ta da

50/50 plastic before & after detail

rear seats before

instead of cleaning it with abbrassive substances or chemical ....steamed it away

the moment i place that.... the owner says...i know what u r gonna to do ...50/50 comparrision pics...certainly yes...otherwise how would u gauge it...

talk is cheap ...now walking it out

can u see the detail side look dulled...comparring to the right side not steam...reason being the dirt , grim & oil that was on these NAPA leathers was remove...


the steam open the pore & the dirt surface out...nothing wrong with cleaners...but do u used it on exotics napa's?... the least aggressive makes to last longer & there is no residues of cleaners left behind

the napa now feel more supple..after steamed

later was conditioned by ALoe conditioner

another head rest 50/50 comparrsion pics
right side not detail & left oil & stains being removed

a 50/50 comparrision pics recondition leather cream was applied

more 50/50 shots

ta da pics after details...steamed, cleaned & reconditions

rear

more

more

feeling like pebble beach

view from the top

more after detail pics

hey babe wanna a ride

even another coupe is envying of her new looks

show u a pics....i got of her

look at the safety beams behind of the head rest for this coupe...certainly it was engineered for performance, style & safety

side beams head rest...electronics controlled

you make me feel brand new....

side door

elegantly yours

SMG...shift controller...giving u the F1 feelings
inbuild GPS

interior carpet pic before

interior carpet before

vaccum off the dirt & dust prior steaming'

after detail

well detail Hartge paddle

remember
engine pics before
not too bad from a distance

now

rear LED light detail

STEAMED & sealed

gave her a quick protection.mean time while..i need to schedule for another full exterior correction soon

when applying wax on circular motion method is always evenly applied

as the front or back strokes..is too inconsistent

 

[kc's]

part 3

yours truly

pics after roof installed back

now u can drive a new car without paying a new instalment

thanks for viwing my art again....

 

[hopsgt500]

Great work, those steamers really come in handy. Thanks for sharing. :clap:

 

[imported_Sal329]

Great work, man I want a real steamer, my shark is ok for interior details and around the house.

 

[kc's]

Great work, those steamers really come in handy. Thanks for sharing. :clap:

Great work, man I want a real steamer, my shark is ok for interior details and around the house.

yyupp...it worth every dime

thanks buddy for yr kind words