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spartacus_33

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After sending my order to YO- Steve, I decided to search to find my wife a MF bathrobe. Came across a site with great prices: www.hhshopping.com/prod01.htm They have many MF cleaning products. Prices are for orders of $50.00, but so cheap, I had to order. Anyone ever deal with this company? Product review to follow.
 
Just took delivery, and I am pleasently surprised. Sure the $1.65 towels are too thin, but the "thick" ones for $2.25 seem pretty good. They are called the Euro Shine towel, and include the "as seen on TV" ad. The towel's tag says: Euro-Shine, Made in Korea, 70% polyester/ 30%polyamide. Compared to the Neatitems towels I love, these are just as plush, but not as clingly against rough skin. Is this an important point? I also could not scratch a CD with them. I only tested them on glass, and found no lint.
 
I've been very pleased with the neatitems towels so far. I've probably bought 50 or so and have sent out 7 or so to various members here. I think they work well and seem to be very gentle on the finish of my paint. This along with the Miracle Towel is the only microfiber towel that I use on my paint finish.
 
I am feeling a little spendy so I can go for 10 of those neatitems towels. That should be $24.90, and then a little more for shipping and handling. I don't have a job right now, so $62 is a little to step for me for 25 towels.



Thanks
 
in 5 to 10 of the neatitems towels -- if we can get enough folks to join in on a bulk order in the next week or two, split shipping costs and figure out how to get them distributed to everyone without doubling the cost. Perhaps we'd need to have everyone prepay a volunteer to place the order and then resend to participants?



Cheers,

-kcd-



PS I'm also interested in trying 2 or 3 Charisma towels as I prepare to Zaino my car soon. I understand that I missed the recent sale at the web outlet store, and there are none near me in KC. If anyone has extra they bought at the sale, I'd be interested in a making a purchase.
 
I had an 09 Jet Black 335i coupe today and it kicked my butt! When I was odering mine in 07 the BMW Jet Black had a nasty reputation for being extremely soft. I conferred with Kevin Hamill in Toronto prior to deciding on my color and even he admitted having a very tough time with the E92 Jet Blacks that were coming out as they had wickedly soft clears! I opted for the Black Saphirre paint code.

Well fast forward to today and the Jet Black BMW Coupe I had today was freakin rock hard!!! It was laughing at a modified KBM method with M105 on my circular! The car came out decent but I was disappointed in the results from my perfectionist viewpoint. Process decided on was KBM method followed by Menz SIP/orange pad 1800 on the circular then Menz 106FF/white pad and about 1100. Zaino AIO then 1 layer of Z5Pro.

I know this may only appeal to a few members but has anyone experienced an 09 BMW Jet Black and if so how hard was it? This is one of those night's when I fell like tossing it in. I know I can and have done much better.
 
I haven't done an '09. The only ones I've polished have been of the "super-soft' variety!

They must have changed their paint formula.

Maybe they decided to go with clear over Jet Black after all these years....:confused::banghead:
 
Being a regular over on quite a few of the BMW boards there was quite an outcry with the relative softness of the newer Jet Blacks. That's kind of what I'm hoping for, Bill, in that they have changed the paint process and have hardened it up recently in response to the complaints.

Thanks for the response. I'm a little dejected tonight but I'll get over it! This wonderful Nat Sherman Churchill cigar after about 8 hours of labor is helping!
 
Some scratches/swirls that simply couldn't be removed. Without a PTG I got as aggressive as I was comfortable going with and they remained. The process I decided on was the KBM with M105 and an orange pad up to about 1800 on my circular. That removed most but still left some tougher RIDS and scratches. I followed that with Menz SIP, orange pad and up to about 1600, then 106FF, white pad (and black in some areas) up to 1100. Finished with Zaino AIO and then 1 layer of Z5 Pro before running out of time with the customer. It looked great to the customer and no hazing, holograms etc, but I've done better. It just kicked my a**.

The problem I had was that the swirls seemed moderate, not severe by any stretch.
 
The problem is the new VOC laws in the USA. By 2019 all car companys must use water based paints on all new vehicles and the CC might be on the hard side. But who knows what happen at the plant. All I know till now it should be soft. Thanks for the heads up Paul.
 
The hardest clearcoat I've polished is the C5 and C6 Corvettes. They call it "Ceramic Clearcoat".

Definitely hard as a rock. I've used M105/205 KBM with my PC XP and had pretty good success, but there are 2 factors that are mandatory:

1. Moderate to heavy pressure

2. Correction time is extensive / long, slow passes(takes twice as long as a "softer" clearcoat)
 
I have an Escalade customer and that stuff is hard, too. I know what you mean about Corvette paint.

If it's any gauge of toughness, I was exerting quite a bit of pressure with my circular and M105 with my usual, gradual slow passes! At times an even abnormal amount of pressure. An additional stress factor was I was on the clock with the customer. He was expecting the car back in about 6 hours. This should have been my typical 10 to 12 hour job. My estimate assumed a soft clear and they're fairly fast. Now I know.

I feel a bit better this morning after seeing some of the BMW guys wondering the same thing. They are even postulating specific build dates of the cars to try to narrow it down to a specifictime for the change to hard clears. One guy in Montreal had a very similar experience.

It's just that after a while you think you have just about every car you do figured out. It doesn't take me long to dial in exactly what I need to FULLY correct. This one not so. Just goes to show, you can't assume anything with any vehicle until you actually work it.

Thanks guys.
 
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