Blackfire vs Opti-Seal

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I've tried em' all...Klasse, Zaino, Autoglym; as well as Blitz, Zymol, P21S,etc, etc. Have been reading about Blackfire here and at CMAs website and I've got a few dollars burning a hole in my pocket so the question is....is it really different than the other sealants or should I just stick with Autoglym (what I use right now)?



Suuposedly Blackfire gives you a"carnauba"-type shine with a sealant's durability. True or not? Your opinions welcome, especially anybody who's used both Blackfire and one of the sealants I listed above. Thanks.
 
It sounds like you've tried them all, why stop now? Besides you can give us all your expert opinion since you have a better perspective than most.



Hope someone answers your question, but from what I've heard some people really like it.
 
LOL, yeah I probably will try it, guess my post doesn't make me sound like the cautious type, but I thought I'd solicit some opinions first.



I've never noticed too much difference between Klasse, Zaino, Autoglym. They're all nice but none of them give me the look I used to get when I used P21s, my favorite "carnauba"-type wax.



Unfortunately P21s doesn't last too long (6 weeks tops). If Blackfire could come close to looking like p21s, and at the same time last, say, twice as long, I'd be pretty happy.
 
In my experience, Blackfire gives you the deep wet look of Blitz. It is easy to apply and remove. The water sheets off of my car when rinsing it down after washing, making drying a lot easier.
 
BF is the first polymer I've used that gives the same depth on red as a good carnuba. I agree that the jury is still out on durability, but it is VERY easy to work with, so adding additional layers is a snap. :xyxthumbs
 
Most of the users of Blackfire seem to indicate that this particular product gives you a great looking finish. The durability, however, is not quite up to par with Klasse or even Zaino. However, you should get twice the durability of a carnauba. At least, I should hope that you get a good 3 months of protection.
 
Don, Im gonna go with what Terry said about BF because hes so honest about the product. He claimed before anyone used it that BF had a different shine (he explained that it 's not nescesarily better), a more "waxy" wet look, which has proven to be true. He also did say that they also experienced BF to loose some of its slickness after the second wash or so, which also is true. He did say though that the protection polymers in BF will last a good 6 months. But hey, I certainly dont mind adding more layers every three months, Im addicted to detailing after all:eek:
 
Yeah, I sure hope that Blackfire proves to give you up to 6 months of protection. However, with what most if not everyone is reporting with Blackfire, it would NOT be a good idea to wait 5 or 6 months before applying additional layers of this product. Since the shine or slickness drops off a bit, it seems as though we're going to have to apply it a bit more regularly than Klasse SG. For us Autopians, its no big deal though as we are usually the ones who have over 5 coats of any particular product. Laters
 
I use Blackfire Wet Diamond and love it. I am reading alot about Optimum Opti Seal but probably not interested enought to try it but am interested in knowing the difference between the two products. I know BFWD is a sealant but it seems that Opti Seal is considered more of a coating. I'm not sure I like the so permanent sound of a coating. What is the difference in the two products? :confused:
 
firebird said:
I use Blackfire Wet Diamond and love it. I am reading alot about Optimum Opti Seal but probably not interested enought to try it but am interested in knowing the difference between the two products. I know BFWD is a sealant but it seems that Opti Seal is considered more of a coating. I'm not sure I like the so permanent sound of a coating. What is the difference in the two products? :confused:
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I think you are mistaking opti seal for opti coat. Opticoat is permanent and will not wear off. Optiseal is a sealant that will last months.
 
firebird said:
Ok, I see now. I'm not sure I'd want something so permanent like Opti coat. 'll stick to BFWD anyway, don't mind putting it once 2-3 times a year.
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Why wouldn't you want something permanent that makes cleaning the care easier and helps reduce scratches and marring while at the same time protecting the paint?
 
Dubbin1 said:
Why wouldn't you want something permanent that makes cleaning the care easier and helps reduce scratches and marring while at the same time protecting the paint?
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Guess I don't really have a good answer but it makes me think of when I applied Liquid Glass a long time ago. That in my opinion was too permanent. I just prefer to use the sealant and apply more often, crazy as it may sound!
 
One thing about Opti-coat, only certain detailers can get it (certified to apply), so Opti-seal is the sealant most of us get to play with - unless you can convince Dr. G you won't mess it up. :cursing:
 
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