Benefits of Sealants vs. Synthetic Waxes

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Scooby24

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I've been struggling lately trying to identify the benefits of utilizing sealants over synthetic polymer waxes like 1000P or other blended waxes that have great durability.



I have customers ask me what the benefits are, as it would seem sealants would be the obvious choice. However, based on my non-chemistry background and strickly observational experience, Sealants:



Don't bead as well

Don't bead as long

Don't feel slicker

Don't shed dirt any better

Don't last longer

Don't look better

Don't cost less



Some sealants have an obviously easier application like Optiseal or 2180, but what are the other benefits that I'm missing?
 
Really it seems the only real advantages that pure sealants have over polymer boosted waxes is that the pure sealants rarely stain trim and the application and removal process is easier.
 
TOGWT "Carnauba in today's wax formulas functions mostly as a carrier; it’s used to keep the polymers and oils on your car's surface. Only a small portion of your vehicle's shine comes from the wax itself. Carnauba is translucent at best with only minimal light reflection. It is among the hardest of natural waxes, being harder than concrete in its pure form"



So the % of carnauba has nothing to do with the waxes looks ??? It is used to keep polymers and oils on the car's surface ??? Then why do people love to have a quality high % of nuba to use ????
 
MDRX8 said:
...So the % of carnauba has nothing to do with the waxes looks ??? It is used to keep polymers and oils on the car's surface ??? Then why do people love to have a quality high % of nuba to use ????
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Wax in itself will not produce a gloss or shine; wax is a dull substance that provides protection, and will not produce gloss without the addition of an additive (oils, silicones, etc) which will produce a reflective gloss, jetting (the so called ‘wet-look) or depth.



The maximum % of wax is 35-40%, larger % of wax content is marketing fiction
 
TOGWT said:
Wax in itself will not produce a gloss or shine; wax is a dull substance that provides protection, and will not produce gloss without the addition of an additive (oils, silicones, etc) which will produce a reflective gloss, jetting (the so called ‘wet-look) or depth.



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I'm sorry, but this just isn't true. In fact, carnauba is used in cosmetic products and to coat food products such as candies and apples precisely for the gloss that it adds - they certainly don't use it for durability or protection!
 
I think that what Togwt is saying is that carnuba by itself wont give a high gloss shine without oils or silicone. In the cosmetic industry Im sure they use other stuff with carnuba to give a gloss ie lip gloss.
 
TOGWT said:
Wax in itself will not produce a gloss or shine; wax is a dull substance that provides protection, and will not produce gloss without the addition of an additive (oils, silicones, etc) which will produce a reflective gloss, jetting (the so called ‘wet-look) or depth.



The maximum % of wax is 35-40%, larger % of wax content is marketing fiction
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Who makes waxes with those percentages, can you name a few?
 
MDRX8 said:
So Zymol is lieing to me when they say my Vintage is 61% nuba. Hummmm..........
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They mean thats the percentage of Nuba in the total amount of wax, which may only be 35% of the product by weight.
 
Wrong--They claim 61% of the jar's volume is white nuba wax....



KneeDragr said:
They mean thats the percentage of Nuba in the total amount of wax, which may only be 35% of the product by weight.
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