imported_Malachi
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I was wondering what I should use before applying Klasse to get rid of light swirl marks, I have 1ZPP and Scratch X. Any opinions? Is there a better start?
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Before Klasse
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Accumulator
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The only problem I foresee with 1Z PP (which I really like) is that it does a bit of concealing along with the mechanical correction from its abrasives. Using AIO after it will sometimes make some residual marring appear to "come back" as the AIO cleans off the PP's wax/etc.
For this reason, I generally prefer filler-less polishes before AIO so I can see what's really there. I usually use the old 3M PI-III MG 05937 before AIO but it's discontinued and getting a little hard to find (but my local autopaint/body supply place has it on the shelf). In the absence of the PI-III stuff, I'd probably use Menzerna.
For this reason, I generally prefer filler-less polishes before AIO so I can see what's really there. I usually use the old 3M PI-III MG 05937 before AIO but it's discontinued and getting a little hard to find (but my local autopaint/body supply place has it on the shelf). In the absence of the PI-III stuff, I'd probably use Menzerna.
imported_Malachi
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Accumulator said:The only problem I foresee with 1Z PP (which I really like) is that it does a bit of concealing along with the mechanical correction from its abrasives. Using AIO after it will sometimes make some residual marring appear to "come back" as the AIO cleans off the PP's wax/etc.
For this reason, I generally prefer filler-less polishes before AIO so I can see what's really there. I usually use the old 3M PI-III MG 05937 before AIO but it's discontinued and getting a little hard to find (but my local autopaint/body supply place has it on the shelf). In the absence of the PI-III stuff, I'd probably use Menzerna.
I am guessing then that Scratch X is also more of a concealer?
I have never used Menzerna, which one would be somewhat equivalent to 1ZPP and how would the 1ZUPP compare to the Menzerna product in terms of ite mechanical component?
(BTW, I have been meaning to give you some feedback on the Sonus QD and Leather products compared to FK.)
Accumulator
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Malachi- I don't have any first-hand experience with the Scratch-X beyond trying it once. AFAIK it does mechanically remove marring, but it has a reputation for taking plenty of elbow grease.
I'm not *that* familiar with the Menzerna line so you'd probably do better to look it up. The 1Z PP is a good bit more aggressive than the FP, that I do know. The 1Z Ultra/Extra is pretty aggressive stuff so IMO the more aggressive Menzerna product would be its equivalent. But I dunno if the Menzerna product would be nearly as by-hand-suitable as the 1Z Ultra (and IMO that's one significant characteristic of 1Z products).
Yeah, the Sonus leather stuff has me intrigued, especially its supposedly neutral scent.
I'm not *that* familiar with the Menzerna line so you'd probably do better to look it up. The 1Z PP is a good bit more aggressive than the FP, that I do know. The 1Z Ultra/Extra is pretty aggressive stuff so IMO the more aggressive Menzerna product would be its equivalent. But I dunno if the Menzerna product would be nearly as by-hand-suitable as the 1Z Ultra (and IMO that's one significant characteristic of 1Z products).
Yeah, the Sonus leather stuff has me intrigued, especially its supposedly neutral scent.
imported_Malachi
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Accumulator said:Malachi- I don't have any first-hand experience with the Scratch-X beyond trying it once. AFAIK it does mechanically remove marring, but it has a reputation for taking plenty of elbow grease.
I'm not *that* familiar with the Menzerna line so you'd probably do better to look it up. The 1Z PP is a good bit more aggressive than the FP, that I do know. The 1Z Ultra/Extra is pretty aggressive stuff so IMO the more aggressive Menzerna product would be its equivalent. But I dunno if the Menzerna product would be nearly as by-hand-suitable as the 1Z Ultra (and IMO that's one significant characteristic of 1Z products).
Yeah, the Sonus leather stuff has me intrigued, especially its supposedly neutral scent.
I am thinking along the same lines that I want a pure mechanical swirl mark remover so I ordered the FPII. I want to make sure I get those little buggers...
In regards to the Sonus Leather product the FK has less scent and because of its spray on application it is easier to work with than then pour and apply method of Sonus. Sonus "seems" to be a better reconditioner though.
Thanks again for your input old friend.
Accumulator
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Malachi- And thank *you* for the info on the leather treatments. I keep putting off buying any (more) what with all the unused stuff I already have, but one of these days...
ConglomrationAL
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You could even use Klasse all-in-one before you use the sealant glaze. It's been useful in getting off minor swirls better than other cleaner-polishes out there.