autogeeks PC 7424/XMT kit a good choice?

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Hello all, I'm sure this has been asked before, but since this is an online forum, it will be asked many more times.. :wall



I'm getting my first detailing setup, and I'm looking at the pre aranged kits at places like autogeeks... they seem to be cheaper than buying each one individually..



I am asking specifically about the PC 7424 and Pinnacle XMT package.

http://www.autogeek.net/xmtpocaswrek.html



what are your opinions of it? is it any good? does it work? is this the PC I should be looking at? should I look more towards a PC and SSR?



I will be using it on a



Carbon Colored 05 expedition,

Aspen Green 03 Camry

white 99 expedition

dark red 96 taurus.





For my green camry, I was also planning on buying the 83 dollar Zaino kit...



So, these are the plans for my camry, :buffing:



PC, XMT #3, (as many times as needed)

PC, XMT #1 (as many times as needed)

PC, Finishing glaze (x1) (Probably not this one)

By hand, Zaino Z5 w/ ZFX x2

By hand, zaino Z2 w/ ZFX x2



thoughts? opinions?



Thanks for looking and helping guys, I really love this site :getdown !
 
As far as your process, the Zaino will likely have some bonding issues going over the XMT finishing glaze. I havent tried any of the XMT polishes so I can't comment personally, but the reviews so far have been mixed.



I would reccommend taking a look at the PC package with the 4* polishes at danase as well:

http://www.danase.com/fostpopa.html



Bit cheaper and you get a 10% discount.
 
I have the XMT Line, and If you want my oppinion, had I the chance to start over again, I would have bought the optimum kit . . .



http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-porter-cable-kit.html



still a great deal . . . and I think you will find many people agreeing with me when I state that the Optimum is a far more advanced, and capeable polish than the XMT line from Pinnacle. Going with the Optimum kit wont get you any black or blue lake country finishing pads, but since your applying your Zaino (great stuff BTW) by hand you wont need them. You do get a low profile orange cutting pad, which will help you get your PC into small spots on your car . . . You also get over 30 OZ of polish and compound, and its 10 bucks cheaper thanthe XMT. Dont bother being bummed about not getting the free pinnacle pad conditioner either, your zaino QD will work just as well. You also get a free second orange low profile cut pad, which is not a bad deal. Polish is very versatile, can be mixed, hardly dusts and has a long working time . . . . and for the cars your not going to Zaino, the included Optimum car wax (spray which works almost as well as a liquid or paste) will provide deep gloss and fair protection. . .



somthing to think about . . . there are so many other good polish systems like menzurna, poorboys, FK, hi temp, and on and on . . that I could offer suggestions for days. as far as what autogeek sells, I would opt for somthing other than the XMT line, and pinnacles ASR/AFP portercable kit - and this is comming from someone who has spent money on both lines, and now they sit in the back of my cabonet with my old waxmaster buffer from sears . . . .
 
makes since, I just was looking at the XMT because that is the one I've heard the most about.



Is there another website I should look at? I was looking at autogeek because that is the main one I've heard about.
 
www.danase.com - check this guy out. im sure he would match a price too . . .



umm . . . the HD porter cable seems like a waste of money. Use a nice extension cord . . ., or if your unit is out of warranty and your mechanically inclined, take it apart and change it yoruself - its three wires . . . took me 10 minutes and some solder . . .
 
danase would be around the same price as autogeeks, but doesn't come in a package or get the 10% off, so I guess the autogeeks would be a better buy...
 
try sending him a PM and ask him directly . . . its worht a shot, depending on where you live it may take less time to get to you . . . .
 
Well I'm going to go ahead and place my order for the optimum kit..



thanks for the help fdizzle, I really appriciate it!



(but I am worried about the pads, I feel like I'm getting crappy pads, as well as not having all the pads that the pinicle one would get... :think2 )
 
Frugle said:
it would, but out of my budget... I was hoping to stay under 300, but with zaino and the optimum, its going to be about 320. :aww:
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well remember you are getting 5 double sided pads which is more like 10 pads for your PC ^_^ but definatly don't spend more than you have.



but you can always pick up the edge pads later http://autogeek.net/foam-polishing-kit.html and use the coupon autopia to get them for 80 dollars + shipping.
 
Frugle said:
when I put in the 10% code, it only too 1 dollar off.. is this normal? will it just not charge me the 24 dollars? what do i do?
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An PC bundles will not qualify for 10% off.



It is probably discounding something in your cart that qualifies, and it is 10 dollars
 
oh bull crap.. thats rediculous.. the one thing they know everyone will buy..



I HATE when companies pull crap like that.



oh well, searched the forum and found the free shipping code.



If this is true, than no discount is okay, but if not, that's bad business.



it [the 10%] was already included in price. We keep them bare bones. Expensive part of the kit if buffer, and we dont make alot of them at all.
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Okay, so here is what I ordered,



Porter Cable 7424 Dual Action Polisher

5� Flexible Backing Plate

32 oz. Optimum Polish

32 oz. Optimum Compound

17 oz. Optimum Wax

6.5� Orange Light Cutting Pad

6.5� White Polishing Pad

5.5� Orange Low Profile Pad

3 Cobra Microfiber Detailing Towels



Zkit-1

# ZFXâ„¢ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive

# Z-2 PROâ„¢ Show Car Polish for Clear Coated Car Finishes

# Z-5 PROâ„¢ Show Car Polish for Swirl Marks and Fine Scratches

# Z-6â„¢ Ultra Clean Gloss Enhancer Spray

# Z-7â„¢ Show Car Wash

# Z-18â„¢ ClayBar

# Zaino Metallic Silver Decal

# & 2 Zaino Custom Polish Applicator



and I added some z-8. :2thumbs:



The only thing I wish I had is Z-16...



and I went way overbudget :( $363.58... :(



guess that means I won't eat for the next couple of weeks. :sadpace:
 
the edge, is that one of the best pads? what are the best? or is it all preference, first time i acctually took a look at the edge w/ the quick change system. seems cool. theyr'e expensive though./
 
DO NOT worry about the quality of the pads, they are MFG for WOLFGANG by LAKE COUNRTY, arguably one of the best pad MFR's in the buisness. the EDGE system is also very good, the advantage there is you get a dual sided pad and a quick change adaptor, and flawless pad centering every time - However, having used both, I find more comfort with the hook and loop backing plates, and once you get the hang of it, your pads will be near perfectly centered every time. . . . :2thumbs:



One drawback to the edge system, IMO they are a little bit harder to clean . . . With the velcro pads you can actually wring them out . . leaving them almost perfectly dry. . . thats just me. . . . :nixweiss



your off to a wonderful start . . sorry . . . i would have said somthing about the 10% off thing, when I ordered I did it over the phone, therefore she just applied it to my whole order . . (gotta sweet talk them, ask them how their day is, you might get a free applicator or somthing . . ) :eek:



on the not eating thing . . . iv been living off of top raman and water form the cooler at work for a month now . . . :chuckle:
 
when you get your product, or hell just do it now, look at some optimum threads . . get some ideas on proper application, when to use what product with what pad . . . etc. Look at some of the heavy posters or administrators and send them a PM for a more direct, accurate response.



as you will soon see, my comment about edge pads will be rebutted by edge fans, who will tell you the pads I like dont work as well. Its all a big oppinion bucket, and If i had it my way, I would have everything, and would be content with life. . . I just try to be as honest and open minded as I can. when you get more money, try the edge system, you might like it more . . . but for now, use what you get in your kit, which is far from "entry level"
 
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