Anyone tried CG Leather Cleaner and LM strong leather cleaner?

S

SSizzlin'

New member
Does one have more cleaning ability than the other? Will one dry out faster? Cost isn't an issue, I want the safest product with the best cleaning ability.



Thanks.
 
Hi,



If cost is not an issue then buy the LM.



The LM does not stay wet for long, im not sure why you are worried about it though?



You work a small say 6" section at a time or take a seat bolster and work on half of it. Apply, aggitate and wipe/blot.



If you are getting masses or dirt cleaned out or the leather looks shiney still then reapply.



You will be best with a cleaner that generates a foam action, it will clean better. You do not want to spray down an entire chair then aggitate!



The CG's stuff is almost as thin as a water, its similar to a interior APC mix (think FKs interior QD at 8:1).



Personally, if it were me choosing i would do this:

Purchase Wolfgang Leather Cleaner, use this to cleaner the chairs the first time. Its a quality product that generates a little foaming action and cleans very well with out any "dry staining".



Then get some LM's to maintain the leather when ever you re apply your protector.



EG: I tend to do a full leather clean with dedicated cleaner then protect every 3 months. I then go in every week with a wet cloth and wipe down the leather.



By doing this wipe down with a wet cloth i do two things: Gently remove build up and grime on the seats AND condition the protected leather with water (the only conditioner it needs).



Rinse the cloth often, dont saturate....keep your brain on the job!



Dont use a cloth thats too intense, you can actually damage the plastic layer on the leather on a microscopic level. I have a very soft worn fluffy MF.



Geoff
 
steelwind101 said:
Hi,



If cost is not an issue then buy the LM.



The LM does not stay wet for long, im not sure why you are worried about it though?



You work a small say 6" section at a time or take a seat bolster and work on half of it. Apply, aggitate and wipe/blot.



If you are getting masses or dirt cleaned out or the leather looks shiney still then reapply.



You will be best with a cleaner that generates a foam action, it will clean better. You do not want to spray down an entire chair then aggitate!



The CG's stuff is almost as thin as a water, its similar to a interior APC mix (think FKs interior QD at 8:1).



Personally, if it were me choosing i would do this:

Purchase Wolfgang Leather Cleaner, use this to cleaner the chairs the first time. Its a quality product that generates a little foaming action and cleans very well with out any "dry staining".



Then get some LM's to maintain the leather when ever you re apply your protector.



EG: I tend to do a full leather clean with dedicated cleaner then protect every 3 months. I then go in every week with a wet cloth and wipe down the leather.



By doing this wipe down with a wet cloth i do two things: Gently remove build up and grime on the seats AND condition the protected leather with water (the only conditioner it needs).



Rinse the cloth often, dont saturate....keep your brain on the job!



Dont use a cloth thats too intense, you can actually damage the plastic layer on the leather on a microscopic level. I have a very soft worn fluffy MF.



Geoff
Click to expand...

Thanks Geoff! :2thumbs:



I actually tried a sample of CG's leather cleaner today. It cleaned the finished auto leather very well! However, I got some "dripping stains". Maybe this is common with all leather cleaners? I only worked a small vertical area, and wiped off quickly. I'll buy WG leather cleaner and LM protector, then follow your guidlines for maintenance.
 
Hi,



Glad i could be of help! The CG Leather Cleaner i think is just a big strong, as in i feel it focuses on cleaning power rather then being gently foamed and thats why it leaves those dripping stains.



Geoff
 
Foaming cleaners are much safer and better to use than liquid cleaners as they stay put when they are applied thus allowing the product time to do some work and they do not leave dripping stains which in some cases have been known to leave permanenet stains on leather which can then only be coloured out.
 
steelwind101 said:
Hi,



If cost is not an issue then buy the LM.



The LM does not stay wet for long, im not sure why you are worried about it though?



You work a small say 6" section at a time or take a seat bolster and work on half of it. Apply, aggitate and wipe/blot.



If you are getting masses or dirt cleaned out or the leather looks shiney still then reapply.



You will be best with a cleaner that generates a foam action, it will clean better. You do not want to spray down an entire chair then aggitate!



The CG's stuff is almost as thin as a water, its similar to a interior APC mix (think FKs interior QD at 8:1).



Personally, if it were me choosing i would do this:

Purchase Wolfgang Leather Cleaner, use this to cleaner the chairs the first time. Its a quality product that generates a little foaming action and cleans very well with out any "dry staining".



Then get some LM's to maintain the leather when ever you re apply your protector.



EG: I tend to do a full leather clean with dedicated cleaner then protect every 3 months. I then go in every week with a wet cloth and wipe down the leather.



By doing this wipe down with a wet cloth i do two things: Gently remove build up and grime on the seats AND condition the protected leather with water (the only conditioner it needs).



Rinse the cloth often, dont saturate....keep your brain on the job!



Dont use a cloth thats too intense, you can actually damage the plastic layer on the leather on a microscopic level. I have a very soft worn fluffy MF.



Geoff
Click to expand...

Just ordered WG leather cleaner. Will be using it on coated leather. I already have optimum leather protectant which is sufficient to follow the leather cleaner. I'll will try LM leather protectant when I finish the optimum.
 
Love CG Leather cleaner. This stuff murders the old nasty squished in heavily layered filth that neglected leather seats often get on them. I do not however use the leather conditioner, I use something different after reading poor reviews. The cleaner is A+ though
 
can't wait to try my CG stuff. Do you guys dilute the cleaner at all or?



I have had mine for a couple weeks, just haven't busted it out yet but my leather could use a tiny bit of cleaning.
 
vtec92civic said:
can't wait to try my CG stuff. Do you guys dilute the cleaner at all or?



I have had mine for a couple weeks, just haven't busted it out yet but my leather could use a tiny bit of cleaning.
Click to expand...



I use mine straight, but I use a "foamer" bottle to eliminate any chance of staining my seats. So far, so good ... it's a great cleaner.
 
DitchTehFish said:
Thanks Geoff! :2thumbs:



However, I got some "dripping stains". Maybe this is common with all leather cleaners?
Click to expand...



===





“Dripping stains� is a sign of cleaning solution having a too high alkaline pH value.



High alkalinity solutions cause the finish to swell that dislodge the soiling, thus causing a wedging effect against the leather finish.



Brightening effect and dripping stains are the same symptom of over alkaline exposure that causes the slow deterioration of the leather finish.



When this stains or brightness is not neutralized with a pH 2.0 Leather Acidifier; you will notice that the next cleaning; the leather finish may feel “tacky� when damp.



Besides you will feel that especially the perforated panels’ leathers will be stiffer as the fatliquors is leach out from high alkaline exposure.





Try out some leather-safe system products; it will never give you the “dripping stains� or “brightness�.



Ask for samples for specific problem; and test it out!



For extreme soiling condition; a pH 7.7 Leather Prep is “paint-on�; sticky as honey to dwell.



Next is to spray a leather-safe pH 3.8 cleaner and agitate with horsehair brush; and see how it foams up!



Then it’s follows with a pH 3.0 leather-safe rinse.





A leather-safe system always bring the original rich color tone back as the leather finish is tighten-up and chemistry integrity strengthen with an acidic rinse.



After all, a healthy leather "structure" including its "finish" when read with a pH meter should always be mildly acidic - just like our skin!





Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®
 
Roger Koh said:
===





“Dripping stains� is a sign of cleaning solution having a too high alkaline pH value.



High alkalinity solutions cause the finish to swell that dislodge the soiling, thus causing a wedging effect against the leather finish.



Brightening effect and dripping stains are the same symptom of over alkaline exposure that causes the slow deterioration of the leather finish.



When this stains or brightness is not neutralized with a pH 2.0 Leather Acidifier; you will notice that the next cleaning; the leather finish may feel “tacky� when damp.



Besides you will feel that especially the perforated panels’ leathers will be stiffer as the fatliquors is leach out from high alkaline exposure.





Try out some leather-safe system products; it will never give you the “dripping stains� or “brightness�.



Ask for samples for specific problem; and test it out!



For extreme soiling condition; a pH 7.7 Leather Prep is “paint-on�; sticky as honey to dwell.



Next is to spray a leather-safe pH 3.8 cleaner and agitate with horsehair brush; and see how it foams up!



Then it’s follows with a pH 3.0 leather-safe rinse.





A leather-safe system always bring the original rich color tone back as the leather finish is tighten-up and chemistry integrity strengthen with an acidic rinse.



After all, a healthy leather "structure" including its "finish" when read with a pH meter should always be mildly acidic - just like our skin!





Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®
Click to expand...

Thanks!



According to chemical guys, their leather cleaner is pH balanced.
 
DitchTehFish said:
Thanks!



According to chemical guys, their leather cleaner is pH balanced.
Click to expand...





===



You should check out on the product MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet).



The pH value should be there!



pH balanced should have a reference point.



And what is this reference point referring to?



It can be any point from 1 to 14 of the pH scale!



The average pH value of leather range from 3 - 5.



So is this product pH balance to this pH 3 -5 range?



If it is so, then you should not have this "dripping stain" problem.



Leather cleaning science tell no lies!





Are you being taken for a ride!







Roger Koh

Leather Doctor®
 
If using the CG leather product, pick up a inexpensive bottle of foaming soap from Wal-Mart and empty out the contents/rinse/rinse/rinse and then fill with the CG stuff. Then order yourself a Autoglym HighTech cleaning pad from Ken at Autowerkesexclusive and you will have one hell of a combo for cleaning leather seats.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top