anyone NOT impressed with Klasse AIO?

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Most of the details I perform are using an AIO product. I've tried Klasse AIO numerous times but always find myself going back to Meg's ColorX. ColorX always seems to give the paint a little extra pop and is better at removing very minor defects. I'm sure Klasse has its place and it is possible that I just haven't found it yet. It's just never left me with a good feeling when complete.



Anyone else prefer a different AIO besides Klasse?
 
You will find yourself in the minority here. If there are two products that are indespensible they are Poorboys SW and AIO. Some people may use Werkstatts Prime and other things from time to time but AIO will not get a bad rap from anyone.
 
yeah, AIO is definatly a winner, however I have never tried color X, and after all the hype and talk about it on forums I think I may give it a shot . .
 
I really do think that is like comparing 2 diffrent things. The colour x is a swirl remover, it is a hand applied abrasive polish. Im not sure but i belive klasse is a filler polish (again not to sure) and dosnet work the same way. I like both products and they both have there spots in my shop but i dont think its fari to compare the two, they are to diffrent in my books
 
twitch said:
Most of the details I perform are using an AIO product. I've tried Klasse AIO numerous times but always find myself going back to Meg's ColorX. ColorX always seems to give the paint a little extra pop and is better at removing very minor defects. I'm sure Klasse has its place and it is possible that I just haven't found it yet. It's just never left me with a good feeling when complete.



Anyone else prefer a different AIO besides Klasse?
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I've never tried ColorX, but I can tell you that I "find myself in the minority" with you - I've never understood the amazement people have for Klasse AIO. It's basically a good last step polish, but it doesn't have enough (very fine) swirl removal ability. It works very well at restoring the clarity to convertible top plastic windows and other soft, clear plastic. Other than that, I don't find it that useful. :scared: :scared:
 
The beauty of AIO is in it's versatility. Use it on paint, glass, plastic, wheels, trim, interior wood, etc. The list goes on. I have used JW Prime, and while I find it to be superior to Klasse for use on paint(better looks, slicker IMO), I still don't find it to be any better than AIO for glass, wheels, trim etc.
 
I use AIO for cleaning purposes, not swirl removal (which it isn't designed for in the first place). You can't be justly disappointed with a product because it doesn't perform a task that it doesn't claim to do anyway.

It's a terrific product for oxidation removal and LSP removal, and works on so many surfaces without any staining.
 
The first time I used AIO I stood there looking at the car, going "you've got to be kidding me". Because the car looked terrible. Once I put SG on, it looked wonderfull.



I've learned to regard AIO as a final step of prep, or the initial work of sealing. But as the total solution to all things, all by itself, it falls short imo.
 
calgarydetail said:
I really do think that is like comparing 2 diffrent things. The colour x is a swirl remover, it is a hand applied abrasive polish. Im not sure but i belive klasse is a filler polish (again not to sure) and dosnet work the same way. I like both products and they both have there spots in my shop but i dont think its fari to compare the two, they are to diffrent in my books
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Are you thinking of Scratch-X?





I think AIO and ColorX are very similar products marketed toward different users. Both products are well regarded..it's been said that AIO has lost a bit of its bite with VOC reformulation..and some say that the JW Prime Strong is close to the old AIO.



The beauty of AIO is to get a nice clean surface for your LSP..not to remove any defects
 
calgarydetail said:
I really do think that is like comparing 2 diffrent things. The colour x is a swirl remover, it is a hand applied abrasive polish.
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I think you are talking about ScratchX not ColorX. If that were the case then yes they are entirely different products.

Bigpoppa3346 said:
The beauty of AIO is in it's versatility. Use it on paint, glass, plastic, wheels, trim, interior wood, etc. The list goes on.
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I do have to agree with you on this. It works great on the shower walls.

White95Max said:
I use AIO for cleaning purposes, not swirl removal (which it isn't designed for in the first place). You can't be justly disappointed with a product because it doesn't perform a task that it doesn't claim to do anyway.

It's a terrific product for oxidation removal and LSP removal, and works on so many surfaces without any staining.
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I know that Klasse AIO is not a swirl remover and I've never used it with the intentions of removing swirls.
 
I use AIO when going for a "Klasse Twins" finish using SG as an LSP. I also use AIO when I need chemical cleaning for stains in the paint. I used it after taking delivery of my new car. The truck driver aparrently parked under an awning or roof and rusty water dripped on my hood and front fenders. The first thing I tried was AIO and it worked beautifully. I've also used AIO for removing other common paint stains and transfer marks. Used as a one-step, AIO performs decent enough. I used it on a heavily oxidized Phoenix Yellow Integra Type-R and got a decent shine and about 2 months of good beading. So AIO does have it's place. But it s not an abrasive polishe and therefore cannot remove swirls or marring all that great, nor will it give long-lasting protection. It does work great on Glass/Chrome/Plastic molding/bumper trim/etc, though.
 
TnM6i said:
I've also used AIO for removing other common paint stains and transfer marks.
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This is what I was expecting although it didn't remove any stains or the transfer marks from the finish when I worked with it.
 
foxtrapper said:
The first time I used AIO I stood there looking at the car, going "you've got to be kidding me". Because the car looked terrible.
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If the car looked terrible, your prep was inadequate. A great looking car doesn't come from an LSP.
 
its interesting to see everyones take on this . . .



is color x (mg website states its a "wax" and "cleaner" and "mild polish") a synthetic polymer protectant? or is is nuba based ? I know it is not an acrylic like AIO . .
 
I love AIO, however I use it as a cleaner/oxidation remover and paint prepper for LSP. It's awesome for cleaning metals like chrome rims or exhaust tips that are dirty or oxidized, or really old oxidized paint. The main function I use AIO for is to prep for an acrylic sealant..it's been my understanding that the AIO cleans the surface and leaves the paint ready to accept acrylic sealants, allowing the SG or other lsp to bond better to the paint's surface. It says right on the bottle of SG that it's designed to work on top of AIO.
 
I'm a big supporter for both AIO and ColorX because they both fulfill my specific expectations.



AIO (Pre-VOC) is a must because in my experience, everything and anything can go over it w/o any problems. It's nice to know that it removes minute "crud" and old wax that does not come off during a normal wash. I have even used it under Z2-Pro (/puts on flame-suit) and gotten 3-4 months of appreciable beading - although I do understand that Zaino performs best and lasts longer when used as a system. In summary, I never expect AIO to remove any physical marring but to only lay down a clean foundation for any LSP that I have in my arsenal.



In regards to Color X, it is a carnauba/polymer blend - hence I do not use it under any sealants...strictly pure waxes.
 
IMO AIO is outdated. It isn't strong enough to remove swirls so it must be preceded with a good abrasive polish. It doesn't have the protection ability of the best sealants. Why bother? IMO a good cleaning polish like ZPC followed by a good sealent is better. AIO only serves to add an additional step.
 
wannafbody said:
Why bother? AIO only serves to add an additional step.
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Because sometimes you'll encounter a badly oxidized vehicle that doesn't need any SMR. It just needs a paint cleaner. In this case you'd use AIO + an LSP of your preference.
 
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