Another Project 2006 Mustang GT

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Went out last night and took a few new pictures of our new baby. Still needs to be polished and then waxed next month
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Richard
 
New car looks good! Why are you waiting until next month to polish and wax it? Unless you just mean you won't have time until next week.
 
Mikeyc said:
New car looks good! Why are you waiting until next month to polish and wax it? Unless you just mean you won't have time until next week.
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He may be waiting for the paint to totally cure. Waxing/sealing before 90ish days after painting could actually not allow the paint to cure completely.
 
audiboy said:
He may be waiting for the paint to totally cure. Waxing/sealing before 90ish days after painting could actually not allow the paint to cure completely.
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Yep. I will polish it most likley next weekend since i have to get the truck ready for the first car show of the year which is this Sunday. Then I will polish the car only and wait for wax/sealant.

I will be posting pictures over the next few months I have lots of goodies in store for her.

Richard
 
Curing paint? Did you have body work done on it?

If not, the paint cured when it came out of the oven at the factory. No need to wait 90 days.
 
Spilchy said:
Curing paint? Did you have body work done on it?

If not, the paint cured when it came out of the oven at the factory. No need to wait 90 days.
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Even stock paint needs it's curing time. The paint is hard and looks completely finished, but it's still curing for that 90 day period afterwards.
 
audiboy said:
Even stock paint needs it's curing time. The paint is hard and looks completely finished, but it's still curing for that 90 day period afterwards.
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OEM finishes are furnace hardened at the factory baked in ovens not found at the local body shop which require the 90 day cure time. OEM paint jobs upon cool down are ready for waxing. This is a big misconception people have.

From Meguiar's:

A new car with a factory paint job can be waxed the moment it is rolled out of the manufacturing plant. Cars that have factory paint jobs are cured at much higher temperatures, sometimes as high as 300 degrees in special baking ovens. At a factory level, the car goes through the painting and baking process without any of the rubber, plastic, and cloth components installed. This is why they can expose the car and it's fresh paint to such high temperatures. These high temperatures and special paints used at the factory level insures the paint is fully cured by the time the car is completely assembled.

After-market paint finishes however, are cured at a much lower temperature to ensure the method of baking or heating the paint doesn't melt non-metal components such as wiring and vinyl. For this reason, it's best to follow the specific paint manufactures recommendations for care and maintenance of fresh paint. Most paint manufactures that supply paint to the refinish industry recommend that you allow anywhere from 30 to 90 days curing time after the paint is applied before you apply the first application of wax.
 
Spilchy said:
OEM finishes are furnace hardened at the factory baked in ovens not found at the local body shop which require the 90 day cure time. OEM paint jobs upon cool down are ready for waxing. This is a big misconception people have.

From Meguiar's:

A new car with a factory paint job can be waxed the moment it is rolled out of the manufacturing plant. Cars that have factory paint jobs are cured at much higher temperatures, sometimes as high as 300 degrees in special baking ovens. At a factory level, the car goes through the painting and baking process without any of the rubber, plastic, and cloth components installed. This is why they can expose the car and it's fresh paint to such high temperatures. These high temperatures and special paints used at the factory level insures the paint is fully cured by the time the car is completely assembled.

After-market paint finishes however, are cured at a much lower temperature to ensure the method of baking or heating the paint doesn't melt non-metal components such as wiring and vinyl. For this reason, it's best to follow the specific paint manufactures recommendations for care and maintenance of fresh paint. Most paint manufactures that supply paint to the refinish industry recommend that you allow anywhere from 30 to 90 days curing time after the paint is applied before you apply the first application of wax.
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Thanks for the information.
 
You're welcome guys.

Yeah, if you think about it, OEM paint jobs are done when there are no engine parts, moldings, bumpers, etc... so it can bake and harden at high temps. At your body shop, you obviously have the whole car intact and can't expose it to such high, concentrated heat like you can at the factory - hence the longer curing time.

Oh yeah, I forgot to say, SWEET ride! I have the new Mustang as my computer desktop wallpaper with the 18" wheel option. I've always wanted one ever since I rode in a 1990 LX 5.0 in high school back in the early 90's.

Best of luck with the Stang!
 
audiboy said:
Even stock paint needs it's curing time. The paint is hard and looks completely finished, but it's still curing for that 90 day period afterwards.
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I disagree. Factory paint is baked at a much higher temperature than what they use in your local body shop. This cures the paint almost instantly. Even if it didn't I'm sure the car rolled off the assembly line at least a month ago.

Absolutely no need to wait before waxing or polishing a new car. Although I have not quizzed any paint manufacturers on this subject, I have asked several detailing product manufacturers and they all agree that there is no need for delay with a new car.

Oops! Just noticed Spilchy already made the argument for me.
 
Spilchy said:
OEM finishes are furnace hardened at the factory baked in ovens not found at the local body shop which require the 90 day cure time. OEM paint jobs upon cool down are ready for waxing. This is a big misconception people have.

From Meguiar's:

A new car with a factory paint job can be waxed the moment it is rolled out of the manufacturing plant. Cars that have factory paint jobs are cured at much higher temperatures, sometimes as high as 300 degrees in special baking ovens. At a factory level, the car goes through the painting and baking process without any of the rubber, plastic, and cloth components installed. This is why they can expose the car and it's fresh paint to such high temperatures. These high temperatures and special paints used at the factory level insures the paint is fully cured by the time the car is completely assembled.

After-market paint finishes however, are cured at a much lower temperature to ensure the method of baking or heating the paint doesn't melt non-metal components such as wiring and vinyl. For this reason, it's best to follow the specific paint manufactures recommendations for care and maintenance of fresh paint. Most paint manufactures that supply paint to the refinish industry recommend that you allow anywhere from 30 to 90 days curing time after the paint is applied before you apply the first application of wax.
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:howdy Thanks for saving me the time of finding that quote.... that's exactly what I was going to go for.

With OEM paint, you can wax the car the second it rolls off the assembly line. :D
 
Spilchy said:
You're welcome guys.

Yeah, if you think about it, OEM paint jobs are done when there are no engine parts, moldings, bumpers, etc... so it can bake and harden at high temps. At your body shop, you obviously have the whole car intact and can't expose it to such high, concentrated heat like you can at the factory - hence the longer curing time.
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Now, what I'm interested in is this: If you have your car re-painted by a bodyshop and they "cure" it in an oven, would using a regular hand-held heat gun to wand over the surfaces (very selectively, mind you) speed up the curing process? Or would it harm the paint in any way?

The reason I ask is that about half of my truck is going to be getting a fresh re-paint in about two weeks, and I want to make the cure time as short as possible so I can install a 3M clear bra kit while everything is still 100% blemish free....
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Now, what I'm interested in is this: If you have your car re-painted by a bodyshop and they "cure" it in an oven, would using a regular hand-held heat gun to wand over the surfaces (very selectively, mind you) speed up the curing process? Or would it harm the paint in any way?

The reason I ask is that about half of my truck is going to be getting a fresh re-paint in about two weeks, and I want to make the cure time as short as possible so I can install a 3M clear bra kit while everything is still 100% blemish free....
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I agree that OEM paints that are baked are ready to wax, no problem there. But using a blowdryer sounds like a not so good idea, and I dont think it would speed anything up. What i would advise you to do is to use a breathable paint sealant like fk1 #2180 on your fresh paint. It is totally safe for any fresh painted surfaces.

Greg
 
GregCavi said:
I agree that OEM paints that are baked are ready to wax, no problem there. But using a blowdryer sounds like a not so good idea, and I dont think it would speed anything up. What i would advise you to do is to use a breathable paint sealant like fk1 #2180 on your fresh paint. It is totally safe for any fresh painted surfaces.

Greg
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Well, I already plan to polish it out with #80 once I get it back, and then put a layer or two of #5 glaze on it weekly until I can start back using one of my other LSPs on it.

I've dealt with fresh paint before, but I was just brainstorming about the speeding the cure time thing.
 
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