Another ONR thread for you skeptics (Procedure w/ pics)

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wong05tsx

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Its mid January, and the rain has finally hit California. (Yeah, I know, damn Californians! haha). During the rainless season, I like to do the traditional wash -- I only get to wash it maybe once a month due to time constraints -- since it seemed more appropriate given the time between my washs.



Anyways, so its been about 1month-1week since my last car wash. We got a little bit of rain in earlier, and the car just looked like a mess!



Products:

1gal spritzer

Optimum ONR

1small (wet) 1 big (dry) Euro-W Double Density MF towel

Euro-W 5gal wash bucket w/ grit guard





1. I presoaked via spritzer (~1gal water + 2caps of ONR) as I was preparing the wash bucket. Here's what the car looked like for the most part (pic taken after spritzer'd)

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2. Soak smaller DD towel in wash bucket solution, and lightly wring it (until no water is dripping). Wipe the panel horizontally. Rinse towel, wring it. Then wipe the same panel again vertically. Results after first wipe:

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(Doesn't look safe on the paint? does it?)



3. Dry the panel that you just washed. I used a larger DD MF towel folded twice. Oh so clean!

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Afters:

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:buffing:





Now I'm pretty certain that for those of you not in California, your car probably be a lot dirtier than this after a month :heelclick



Only 4gal of water used for the whole wash. Scratch free, and be green!
 
Nice! :cooleek: I just received my first bottle of ONR and finished my first wash a few minutes ago. Sorry, no pics, but my 2009 Ford Fusion in Sport Metallic Blue was covered with salty white specs from the snow this past week here in NJ.



The final result was better than I'd expected, and thanks to everyone who reported their own results on this board!
 
i just got a bottle of the magic stuff and used it for the first time the other day. also from california but a lot cleaner than that one haha and the results were just stunning. great job btw.
 
I guess what i dont like is that ONR does nothing for the salty dirt and grime built up in the panel gaps and undercarriage.



While i see its benefits, it certainly isn't better than a proper hand washing.
 
Not only great for the winter, but I am almost to the point where I am getting faster than traditional washing. The finish it leaves is by far wayyy better than any traditional shampoo I have used... the only thing that sucks is getting dirty SUV roofs :soscared:
 
04v8s4 said:
I guess what i dont like is that ONR does nothing for the salty dirt and grime built up in the panel gaps and undercarriage.



While i see its benefits, it certainly isn't better than a proper hand washing.
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I concluded the same after my first mid-winter use of ONR. It has it's uses though. For those without wash facilities that have grime, grit and salt covered cars you almost have to hit a coin-op to blast winter's worst off first and get the nooks and crannies. An ONR wash after fits the bill nicely.



Think I'll head out to see if the garage is warmed up yet then do a nice, thorough wet wash.... just because I can :D



TL
 
In my experiences with ONR (like today on 2 cars), it seems to do nicely on paint but wheels and wheel wells are another story. It cannot remove residue tire dressing and has a hard time removing salt from wheel wells. In this session, I mixed up a fresh batch just to do the wheels and wells but still not much luck. I suspect that these are not like the paint in having a nice protective layer. In fact, the car with the older wax job was noticeably different in cleaning and drying ease.



Miracle - no, nice product - yes. I just cannot apply a LSP to the wheels and wheel wells.
 
Bunky said:
In my experiences with ONR (like today on 2 cars), it seems to do nicely on paint but wheels and wheel wells are another story. It cannot remove residue tire dressing and has a hard time removing salt from wheel wells. In this session, I mixed up a fresh batch just to do the wheels and wells but still not much luck. I suspect that these are not like the paint in having a nice protective layer. In fact, the car with the older wax job was noticeably different in cleaning and drying ease.



Miracle - no, nice product - yes. I just cannot apply a LSP to the wheels and wheel wells.
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I find that using a pesticide sprayer really helps with wheel wells. I also have several brushes that help me reach deep into the fenderwells.
 
Scottwax said:
I find that using a pesticide sprayer really helps with wheel wells. I also have several brushes that help me reach deep into the fenderwells.
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Do you put an ONR solution into the sprayer or a APC solution?





The looks great! :drool:
 
^ +1 to the sprayer. i use them as well, and find the cheapo $10.50 gallon unit from home depot works great for my needs. i have a couple of them and use one for a degreaser, one for just water, and one for wheel cleaner. so far so good - we'll just have to see how they hold up.
 
I need to try the sprayer method. I always just use the 2 bucket, I've had pretty good luck with this method so far.
 
used the sprayer method today, along with the 2BM and got great results :)



as it was cold and damp, I misted 50% of the car with ONR at wash solution strength. Then started round that area.



I have started to use a Zymol sponge (slightly softer than the GS available here), as its possible to use much less water than with MF media IMHO. I do 1 pass on each clean side of the sponge and rinse, before going back over the same area with a little more clean solution, before drying. Took me a little longer today, on my filthy car, but it came up brilliantly.



Technique seems SO much more important with an ONR wash, down to how you have your buckets and tools arranged around you. I have even experimented with different boxes for storing the MFs I use, so I have 1 large box with a divider in it, and fresh MFs on one side, and can throw dirty ones on the other. A bit more practice and I should be able to save even more time.



So far I seem to be using 4 gallons of (recycled rain) water for a medium size car, including wheels, though I'd like to get that to 3 if I can.... I think my extra care on very dirty cars is costig me more water :nervous2:
 
lmulion03 said:
how long does it take to do the whole car with ONR? Is it something that could be done daily on a car as a QD?
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If my car isn't too trashed, it takes about 8-10 minutes to wash the tires, wheels and fenderwells and another 20 or so to wash the exterior.



You can mix ONR at QD strength and clean dust off the car that way.
 
ONR is great & I have found that it will actually work alright down to about 25*F. Anything below that & it freezes, but that's better than H2O. Now if we could only ever get a day above 25*F again where I live...sigh.
 
Love the stuff.



Another +1 for the pesticide sprayer method. I've got a big one for ONR washes and a few smaller ones for general purpose things, similar to Marc.



I can get most of the major salt and debris off with an ONR prespray to loosen up the dirt, and then a spray from the hose to rinse it off. Defeats the purpose of ONR, but it works great for fender wells, skirts, tires, etc.



Of course you really can't beat the good ol' two bucket ONR for quick, effective, and efficient washes.



Scottwax: Great washing with ONR video in your signature btw. Prime demonstration of the proper ONR method.
 
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